Vudoo V-22S Single Shot BR/F-Class Action

Hello Mike,
I'm sorry but I'm way behind on any V22S information. Is your new V/F trigger blade adjustable for and aft with the holes in the blade? Is it a Rem 700 pattern that I can put in my existing V22? If so, have you established a cost yet?

KSC
Hey Dude, the repeater trigger has some adjustability but the BR trigger does not. Yes, it’s the same pinned interface as your current trigger and we’ll get pricing squared away within another few days.

MB
 
If the rails are 11mm, the BR guys should be good to go. Kelblys makes beautiful rings. Have you looked at straight line BR stocks for complete builds?

Yessir, they’re 11mm.

I have and will post info soon. I owe Randy Owens a few prints and he’ll be knocking out BR stocks....

MB
 
Mike
Are your scope bases the same height ? I believe my Stiller one is higher than the other. I like to use Talley one piece base and ring. They matched up what I needed for the Stiller.
Thanks
 
Mike
Are your scope bases the same height ? I believe my Stiller one is higher than the other. I like to use Talley one piece base and ring. They matched up what I needed for the Stiller.
Thanks

The Vudoo bases are the same height but many other bases already available will fit (hole spacing is .860). One piece bases for Jerry’s actions won’t fit, but I’m open to hearing what you guys need.

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Mike, thanks so much for continuing the "strip tease". Pics look fantastic. I have another engineering question. Can you share what chamber type/style you're using? I am a rookie when it comes to those type of details on the pros/cons of certain types/styles of chambers. Just curious if you're using a historically accurate design, or something custom you've planned for us which will also make history for it's accuracy?

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Mike, thanks so much for continuing the "strip tease". Pics look fantastic. I have another engineering question. Can you share what chamber type/style you're using? I am a rookie when it comes to those type of details on the pros/cons of certain types/styles of chambers. Just curious if you're using a historically accurate design, or something custom you've planned for us which will also make history for it's accuracy?

Thanks!

Thanks RF. The chamber is custom and it’s way too early to tell if it’ll make history. Two actions are barreled and now the tuning/tweaking starts, so I’ll share more details as soon as I have them. 👊🏻

MB
 
Mike, can you comment on the need for a tuner with the new rifle? Will you be supplying a tuner with the new rifle? Harrell's maybe? And lastly, will your team be tuning the tuner prior to shipment or will that be left to the customers to do, with the ammo of their choice?

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I know nothing about benchrest shooting but appreciate product development, engineering and manufacturing so I am loving this thread. My Vudoo repeater is superb and I'm sure the BR version will be as well. Keep the updates coming! Shooting my Vudoo tomorrow!

Thanks MP, much appreciated.

MB
 
Mike, can you comment on the need for a tuner with the new rifle? Will you be supplying a tuner with the new rifle? Harrell's maybe? And lastly, will your team be tuning the tuner prior to shipment or will that be left to the customers to do, with the ammo of their choice?

Thanks!

RF, without a doubt, a tuner will be an available option. I’m not sure which one it’ll be yet, and there will be guys that already have one, but you guys will be able to add a tuner to your orders from what could be a list of available tuners....still a few details to work out. We won’t be tuning prior to shipping, as the variables would negate the effort.

MB
 
Mike
if I may give you a suggestion on tuners to offer. I use the adjustable one sold by Joe Chacon. You give him the length of the barrel from the bolt face and the muzzle diameter and he sends one already adjusted using the Purdy formula. I have had three of them and all were very close as received. Saves time and ammo.
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Mike, I am liking the 6 o'clock FP position and the left hand ejection port. As for the trigger pull weights. I mostly shoot BR matches that require a two piece rest and shouldering the weapon as opposed to the one piece howitzer mounts used in unlimited ARA or other classic BR. My CF rifle has a Timney Calvin Elite dialed down to about 8ox with a functional safety. That is about as light as l like to go. Our matches are factory repeater rifles only and are currently dominated by a handful of really well preserved old Winchester mod 52's. I have been toying with replacing my old 52 with a new V22 set up to take on the old guard. Repeater, HB about 22 3/4 in long with tgt crown no threading at muzzle, trigger similar to my calvin in pull weight. Stock: Something that would mimic an older vintage 1413 Annie. i.e. Thumbhole with adjustable pull, and comb height. My CF is in a Bell & Carlson so similar to that would work.

I also shoot the new ARA Factory rifle class. The V22 as well as all of the Win 52's and Annies and a number of other top tier rifles are not allowed in this class since it is limited to new factory rifles with MSRP of $1000 or less and a list of older similar rifles. I currently shoot a Rem 540XR in those events and while it is competitive, I would love to see a "Value Priced" version of the V22 become available. Any plans to offer a entry level option at $995? We cannot alter bbl, action or stock but can do trigger jobs. They do not have to be repeaters for this class of competition. Just putting the seed of a product idea out there.
 
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Mike, I am liking the 6 o'clock FP position and the left hand ejection port. As for the trigger pull weights. I mostly shoot BR matches that require a two piece rest and shouldering the weapon as opposed to the one piece howitzer mounts used in unlimited ARA or other classic BR. My CF rifle has a Timney Calvin Elite dialed down to about 8ox with a functional safety. That is about as light as l like to go. Our matches are factory repeater rifles only and are currently dominated by a handful of really well preserved old Winchester mod 52's. I have been toying with replacing my old 52 with a new V22 set up to take on the old guard. Repeater, HB about 22 3/4 in long with tgt crown no threading at muzzle, trigger similar to my calvin in pull weight. Stock: Something that would mimic an older vintage 1413 Annie. i.e. Thumbhole with adjustable pull, and comb height. My CF is in a Bell & Carlson so similar to that would work.

I also shoot the new ARA Factory rifle class. The V22 as well as all of the Win 52's and Annies and a number of other top tier rifles are not allowed in this class since it is limited to new factory rifles with MSRP of $1000 or less and a list of older similar rifles. I currently shoot a Rem 540XR in those events and while it is competitive, I would love to see a "Value Priced" version of the V22 become available. Any plans to offer a entry level option at $995? We cannot alter bbl, action or stock but can do trigger jobs. They do not have to be repeaters for this class of competition. Just putting the seed of a product idea out there.

Hey JG, glad you dropped in here and I appreciate your feedback on a few of the features. I’ve been giving some thought to the factory class and it has me working on a few things that led to something that may contribute to what you’re asking. I can speak more freely about it after the patent docs are squared away but I have reason to believe we can get into factory class without sacrificing performance.

Let’s stay in touch and I’ll keep you posted....

MB
 
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I shoot a lot of Club level BR matches and a few state level matches (both CF and RF) and I think the triggers need to be in the 4 ounce range. But it would be nice to have the trigger adjustable for different shooters preferences.

I agree. I do not shoot BR matches but do shoot quite a few rimfire F-class matches. Both of my guns now are just over 4 oz, 4.3 to 4.5. I've not shot with a trigger any lighter than that but I'm very comfortable and competitive (most of the time) with that weight. Mike, I hope you have a trigger that will work well in that weight range on the new V-22S with the 90 degree sear.

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Hey Guys,
Well, it’s time to start this thread. As I go forward with this, you’ll note, as I’ve been doing lately, that I’ll be speaking a bit more candidly. There are a few reasons for this, but the greatest of them being to keep information relevant. What you can expect to see within the next few days are the first builds on the new three lug action and I’ll provide details regarding the approach to what we’ve done and why we’ve done it.

I received an email from Fabio of Flavio Fare this morning and he had good news. His area within Italy will be “unlocked,” as he termed it, on 4May, so the few remaining things he needs from suppliers will be available again. We finalized the artwork on the triggers and if you guys are interested, I’ll post the renderings, but, as much as I’ve messed 😜with you guys lately I don’t want to frustrate anyone any further than I did with the barrel slugging thing over the weekend.

So, standby and I’ll edit this opening post with quite a few detailed pics of individual parts and the first of the newly built rifles.

Editing to add, we’re not accepting orders yet, but still maintaining the list. Everyone on the list will be notified and I’ll make an announcement here as well when the switch is flipped. If you’d like to be on the list, email [email protected].

MB
I’m very excited to see this!
 
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Hey Mike - I thought the contour of the bbl on the left action in your last photo looked familiar, but couldn't tell if it's the same as the Shilen R 5 that I bought in anticipation of receiving my V22S, or the slightly heavier R 0. Killough didn't have any R 0 blanks in stock, and I wasn't really sure I wanted the heavier one anyway, so I took what I could get... Looking forward to seeing your results with the V22S/Shilen, regardless of which blank it is.
 
Hey Mike - I thought the contour of the bbl on the left action in your last photo looked familiar, but couldn't tell if it's the same as the Shilen R 5 that I bought in anticipation of receiving my V22S, or the slightly heavier R 0. Killough didn't have any R 0 blanks in stock, and I wasn't really sure I wanted the heavier one anyway, so I took what I could get... Looking forward to seeing your results with the V22S/Shilen, regardless of which blank it is.

The one on the left is the R0 Shilen Ratchet and on the right is the Vudoo/Ace. Ridiculously small groups out of both today with BAs mounted in J Allen and MPA chassis. No tuner, bipod, rear bag, just to set a baseline. Will build actual BR platforms going forward, adding components after each range session.

MB