Lower accuracy node with the 225 and 230 Hornady pills in the 82.5 range with Retumbo. Another accuracy node at 85-86 with retumbo. Seated at the lands for everything. Seems to be the same in almost all the Norma barrels me and a few guys I shoot with have found. Maybe 8 different norma barrels all kinda follow what I mentioned above. Peterson brass. 215m's.