That's funny. Ive never loved any timney, but the absolute worst was the CE two stage. Pure garbage.
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Yup, it clears when the bolt is open. Not a big deal to me, don't need to fold it often.
The decision to go with the AW mags is the perfect decision. They feed like butter and are nice and compact for a 10 round mag. When the mag gets down to about half empty I can hardly feel them strip off and chamber. To the point I had to check the first few I ran in. Im 580 rounds in and 0 fail to feeds, slow, fast, whatever. This is my first rifle that runs AW mags and I cant imagine building another SA .473 bolt head rifle with AICS again.
Not having that experience at all. I ordered one that was set at 2lb/8oz for the two stage (Part# 532)
I’ve got three CDG actions and we installed a TT in one and a Timney in the other.
The Timney/CDG combo is like butter, the TT is not exactly there… once adjusted properly in the trigger hanger.
Works like a champ. Very similar to the trigger in my TRG22 and 42.
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I had to *very* carefully tune my TT with the hangar, but once set correctly, it's buttery smooth. Absolutely zero felt hangups or cock on open/close.
The only thing I wished for was a tighter fit in the hangar for limiting side to side motion, which I solved with a few things shims/ washers.
FWIW The Huber trigger has no side to side in the CDG hanger.
Just measured a TT Primary and it's .307" width at the top. Huber is .309"
Just measured a TT Primary and it's .307" width at the top. Huber is .309"
I’ve got post-2013. I struggle to describe why perhaps due to vocabulary, but first of all the position of the trigger is adjustable fore-aft, about the horizontal axis, and about the vertical axis (rotation of trigger face) so it’s heinously more functional in that sense than any R700 pattern trigger so I can get it to fit me/my hand/my preferences very easily whereas with the R700 I’m relying on the grip to position my hand ideally. Second, I like the shoe feel and shape of course. Third, so far as the actual trigger mechanics the first stage take-up length is something I’ve struggled to replicate in either BnA TacSport (not Pro) and TT Diamond (also the next tier down, primary or special). For the overall weight of the pull, it is an exceptional trigger with distinct first stage travel (and weight) with a solid second stage break.
I think I’m leaning towards the BnA Tacsport Pro-X and adjusting it to work well with the pivoting handle.
Any recommendations on CF prefits (6.5 Creed so I want the conical breech)? I’ve seen Preferred Barrel Blanks and Straight Jacket Armory have them, didn’t know if there was a preference between the two (or for another barrel)
Any recommendations on CF prefits (6.5 Creed so I want the conical breech)? I’ve seen Preferred Barrel Blanks and Straight Jacket Armory have them, didn’t know if there was a preference between the two (or for another barrel)
If I were buying a BnA today I’d think about the Pro-X, but really it’s much lighter than I need - that’s what keeps me from TT Diamond and similar triggers as well.
TT primary single stage. 0.2355" pin fall measured near the top of the cocking piece.
I have not fired this yet so still need to see how she shoots and if there is consistent ignition. What are other folks measurements/results here?
I measured a pin fall of .245
If your pin measurement is the same with the bolt closed and open you are good to go from what I've seen.
Help me out with bore guides. Are they specific to the bore diameter, rod diameter, chamber, and action length?
I'm building 2 CDGs. One long action in 300 NM, and a short action in 6 creedmoor for now. I'll probably mess with other SA cartridges in 22, 6, and 6.5 in the future.
Ideally I'd like one bore guide that can do all them, but it's looking like I may need to order two. One LA for 300 NM with a 30 cal rod, and one short action for 6 cm with a 22 cal rod. Am I incorrect here?
I'm building 2 CDGs. One long action in 300 NM, and a short action in 6 creedmoor for now. I'll probably mess with other SA cartridges in 22, 6, and 6.5 in the future.
Ideally I'd like one bore guide that can do all them, but it's looking like I may need to order two. One LA for 300 NM with a 30 cal rod, and one short action for 6 cm with a 22 cal rod. Am I incorrect here?
I’ve spun up:
- 1.25 Rock Creek #8 barrel 28” 1:8
- Proof CF Sendaro 24” 1:7.5
- PVA CF Osprey 1:7 24”
- Bartlein #4 CF 1:7.5 24”
I found that, even after tuning the triggers, the TT was just a little less butter smooth than the Timney.
The Timney absolutely works a little bit better… the only downside was that you have to modify the trigger hanger.
I installed a second Timney trigger in my third action yesterday and timed it. Just as nice as the first one @TheOE800 did. Trigger pull on the TT and the Timney triggers is very similar as far as it’s crispness is concerned.
I really don’t know why people are complaining about the Timney 2-stage triggers.
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Ive got the Timney 2 stage in mine. After 5 minutes with the 7 axis mill and another 3 minutes tuning, the bolt lift is slicker than owl shit on a tin roof and zero clunk on close. The trigger is pretty damn crisp, certainly, at least for me, there's nothing to bitch about. I dont own a TT, but Im not sure how much better it gets. Im not running it at 8 oz, so maybe that's it. Ive got it at about 1lb/1lb and its plenty light for what Im doing.
I will confirm the blue Timney two stage makes for some slick ass bolt throw in these guns.
The mill to relieve the trigger hanger a bit...for safety lever maybe?
And...do I understand it correctly that Ted has modified the trigger hanger in more recent production to provide more clearance and eliminate this need. Is this correct?
On the recently shipping long actions that seems to be true.
I love the Tubb triggers too! They are really great!! They have a very distinctive 2nd stage wall and are fully adjustable with pull weight and length of travel. I have a hard time shooting single stage triggers anymore because of them. I was disappointed the CDG trigger hangar couldn't accommodate them. I bought a Bix-N Andy Tacsport 2-stage to try on my CDG - whenever it shows up.
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HI Sentinel!
Thanks again for the photos you've been providing! They're great! I sent a link off to Jamie of Cadex to see if he can offer any solutions. Cadex makes an "R7" version of their chassis/buttstock that looks like it provides additional room in the "window" for the bolt handle to protrude. Not sure if it's enough, though. I'll let you know as soon as I find out.
Precisely.
I have seen pics of the new modified hanger but I dont know if it clears the timney safety. I would assume it does and if not it doesn't take much.
Crossing fingers for AW WSM mags.
Nope. Easy peasy. I bolted on the action and swapped out the sling stud for a pic rail section for a bipod. Took about 10 minutes.
Yes and the only one I needed was a slightly lower mag latch to work with AICS mags, I reached out to MDT and they sent me all the sizes so I could find which one worked best. I’ll have to double check but I believe it was the -2mm.
Although on the flip side, a Manners Pro Hunter looks pretty damn sharp too.
Once I get my RTG Bottom metal I’ll have to see if I need to modify the latch as the Hawkins I borrowed for this picture won’t let the mags latch.
Once I get my RTG Bottom metal I’ll have to see if I need to modify the latch as the Hawkins I borrowed for this picture won’t let the mags latch.
AW mags were tight to release at first. They have worn into the factory latch perfect after call it 30-40 mag changes. I recommend AW mags if your caliber will allow. They are awesome.
AW 223 would be sweet.
Most of the pre-orders have taken longer than 5 months.
The latest shipped actions I can find in this thread are a long action ordered on 3/1 (post #5169) and a short action ordered on 2/26 (post #5231). Both were shipped right about the 6 month mark from the order date.
The long actions appear to be moving faster, I'd guess fewer of them were ordered relative to how many are being made. My guess is ARC will have caught up to their 4 month estimate on long actions in the next month or two, but they'll be working through a short action back log for awhile longer.
Bought a SA and LA on 2/11 and I'm still waiting on the LA. The SA is at my FFL.
As a lefty I am right at 7 mos, ordered 2/8 in the am. It is what it is.
