Coup De Grâce, New Action from American Rifle Company, $899 WOW!

[patmac 12]

Will spare bolt heads be available at launch? Definitely picking a coup up but not sure if I want to go 223 or 6 creed first but will be getting both barrels eventually

 

[evilsemaj]

"probably in about e̶i̶g̶h̶t̶ five weeks"

 

[craigos]

still no video? didnt see anything either on the shot show vids.

 

[giumau1]

@karagias ,can I start my build by ordering a xylo and its bells and whistles now, being assured that it will marry seamlessly the CDG and AW mags? Website description still mention latch modifications required for AW mags.

 

[MilSpecOkie]

@karagias can I start my build by ordering a xylo and its bells and whistles now being assured that it will marry seamlessly the CDG and AW mags? Website description stil mention latch modifications required for AW mags.

I’ll piggyback on this by asking if my Xylo, that was one of the first ones available, is compatible with the CDG and both AICS and AI AW magazines? Just making sure there isn’t a Gen 2 or newer version Xylo available.

 

[xfyre101]

@karagias ,can I start my build by ordering a xylo and its bells and whistles now, being assured that it will marry seamlessly the CDG and AW mags? Website description still mention latch modifications required for AW mags.

i mean honestly unless you're in some kind of rush, you're better off waiting for like black friday when they have their sales. buy the action when it comes out and wait a bit.

 

[lash]

@karagias ,can I start my build by ordering a xylo and its bells and whistles now, being assured that it will marry seamlessly the CDG and AW mags? Website description still mention latch modifications required for AW mags.

You need to read it again. It has always said that the CDG will work flawlessly with AW mags. It’s AICS mags that will work better with a shim in the mag well.

 

[lash]

Okay, I see now that it’s the Xylo itself that says that. I suspect that’s because all of ARC’s actions until now were not AW compatible. That’s why it says “may require modification”.

 

[carlooa]

I bet you just ask them for a diff latch and it’s Gucci. I told them I was putting a vudoo in mine and they put the diff latch and wedge. I’m sure if you tell them you’re getting a cdg they’ll configure it correctly for you.

 

[MilSpecOkie]

i mean honestly unless you're in some kind of rush, you're better off waiting for like black friday when they have their sales. buy the action when it comes out and wait a bit.

No guarantee that is will be on a BF sale. Last year they had very few items on sale. The only action was the Nucleus 2.

 

[brianf]

who waits almost a entire year to save 100$ when each round down range costs 2$

buy it now and shoot one less round a week and by black friday your even money

 

[rijndael]

who waits almost a entire year to save 100$ when each round down range costs 2$

I tend to agree, but I'm in absolutely no rush for this build. I already have enough newer/fully-built guns and I'm still buying a CDG. I'll wait for PVA's 4th of July sale too. I'm in no rush.

 

[Forester12]

This is my first post as new member. I’m more of a moderate to short range enthusiast for now. I have been wanting to put together a custom diy build and really like the features of the CDG. I really appreciate the ingenuity of the ARC actions, am also considering a Nucleus or the new Solus from Aero. I’ve read this entire thread and understand that barrels will need a cone breach similar to a M70. I’m a mechanical person and am curious what the difference in feeding is compared to the Nucleus to require cone breaching? Maybe I missed it somewhere. Does it have to do with AW compatibility. I like the simplicity of being able buy any off the shelf small shank savage barrel, but don’t see myself buying that many barrels so it’s probably a non-factor. Probably would start with a 6.5 creedmoor or even 6.5 grendel. I like the 6.5 family, currently playing around with a Swede.

 

[lash]

This is my first post as new member. I’m more of a moderate to short range enthusiast for now. I have been wanting to put together a custom diy build and really like the features of the CDG. I really appreciate the ingenuity of the ARC actions, am also considering a Nucleus or the new Solus from Aero. I’ve read this entire thread and understand that barrels will need a cone breach similar to a M70. I’m a mechanical person and am curious what the difference in feeding is compared to the Nucleus to require cone breaching? Maybe I missed it somewhere. Does it have to do with AW compatibility. I like the simplicity of being able buy any off the shelf small shank savage barrel, but don’t see myself buying that many barrels so it’s probably a non-factor. Probably would start with a 6.5 creedmoor or even 6.5 grendel. I like the 6.5 family, currently playing around with a Swede.

That subject has been discussed at length in the first few pages of this thread, though I get that just coming into a thread that’s 21 pages long would discourage one from wanting to read all of that. Especially since pages were wasted on those complaining about the name.

As I understand it, it has to do with the larger bolt and the necessary meat to contain that bolt. Since the same bolt can be used for everything from .22-338. The smaller diameter cartridges can approach the chambers too low to feed consistently. There’s even a diagram/drawing showing this for clarity.

 

[lash]

This is my first post as new member. I’m more of a moderate to short range enthusiast for now. I have been wanting to put together a custom diy build and really like the features of the CDG. I really appreciate the ingenuity of the ARC actions, am also considering a Nucleus or the new Solus from Aero. I’ve read this entire thread and understand that barrels will need a cone breach similar to a M70. I’m a mechanical person and am curious what the difference in feeding is compared to the Nucleus to require cone breaching? Maybe I missed it somewhere. Does it have to do with AW compatibility. I like the simplicity of being able buy any off the shelf small shank savage barrel, but don’t see myself buying that many barrels so it’s probably a non-factor. Probably would start with a 6.5 creedmoor or even 6.5 grendel. I like the 6.5 family, currently playing around with a Swede.

Read page four of this thread where this is discussed. Posts #152 & 190 include descriptions and diagrams to help with understanding.

 

[357Max]

This is my first post as new member. I’m more of a moderate to short range enthusiast for now. I have been wanting to put together a custom diy build and really like the features of the CDG. I really appreciate the ingenuity of the ARC actions, am also considering a Nucleus or the new Solus from Aero. I’ve read this entire thread and understand that barrels will need a cone breach similar to a M70. I’m a mechanical person and am curious what the difference in feeding is compared to the Nucleus to require cone breaching? Maybe I missed it somewhere. Does it have to do with AW compatibility. I like the simplicity of being able buy any off the shelf small shank savage barrel, but don’t see myself buying that many barrels so it’s probably a non-factor. Probably would start with a 6.5 creedmoor or even 6.5 grendel. I like the 6.5 family, currently playing around with a Swede.

Since you don't have experience with ARC actions I can see how the obvious would easily be missed.

To put it in simple terms, the lugs on the CDG are at 10, 2, & 6 o-clock. The opposite of the Nuke & Archimedes @ 12, 4, & 8. On the latter 2 actions there is a feed ramp between the lugs 4 - 8 o-clock. Without the ramp there is nothing to lift the projectile into the chamber of the smaller cartridges. The projectile/case neck pass through the 6 o-clock lug gap & hit the flat wall of the barrel below the chamber. With a cartridge like 223 the chamber diameter is small so there would be a taller flat wall adjacent.

CDG

Nuke

Feed ramp

 

[S3th]

Damn, I do not use enough grease.

 

[xfyre101]

who waits almost a entire year to save 100$ when each round down range costs 2$

buy it now and shoot one less round a week and by black friday your even money

yeah, you're totally right, but i shoot like once a quarter haha, i have way too many other hobbies to go shooting every week, so to me waiting for sales is not a big deal and ive managed to make some really nice builds over the years at half the price it wouldve been otherwise. saving couple hundred on each piece adds up to thousand or more over the entire build.. and thats like a whole other gun

 

[357Max]

Damn, I do not use enough grease.

That's what it shipped with.

 

[Gil P.]

I might consider this action if I was considering suicide. Then my family could joke about how Gil gave himself the ole Coup De Grace.

 

[Forester12]

Since you don't have experience with ARC actions I can see how the obvious would easily be missed.

To put it in simple terms, the lugs on the CDG are at 10, 2, & 6 o-clock. The opposite of the Nuke & Archimedes @ 12, 4, & 8. On the latter 2 actions there is a feed ramp between the lugs 4 - 8 o-clock. Without the ramp there is nothing to lift the projectile into the chamber of the smaller cartridges. The projectile/case neck pass through the 6 o-clock lug gap & hit the flat wall of the barrel below the chamber. With a cartridge like 223 the chamber diameter is small so there would be a taller flat wall adjacent.

CDG

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Nuke
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Feed ramp
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This makes sense. Thanks for the explanation and pics!

 

[lash]

Except that Gil misunderstood the meaning of the term/expression.

 

[Gil P.]

Except that Gil misunderstood the meaning of the term/expression.

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Ah, but you see my soul is wounded.

ETA
Or at east my soul would be wounded in this hypothetical suicide scenario.

 

[lash]

Ah, but you see my soul is wounded.

ETA
Or at east my soul would be wounded in this hypothetical suicide scenario.

Good one!

But not to digress to far, 6 weeks and counting.

 

[LoStallone]

I’m in for one for a 6.5 CM build!

I’ve been a long time fan of the Foundation Centurion stocks. Are we able to pair those with these actions?

Edit: It looks like they make the Centurion stocks for the Mausingfield. I suppose this is more of a question regarding whether the Mausingfield and CDG will have the same action inlet.

 

[Mrandersonnn]

People of Earth,

American Rifle Company proudly introduces the Coup De Grâce at the hard to believe introductory price of only $899.

We'll be taking orders soon, probably in about eight weeks once actions are on the shelf.

From the Oxford English Dictionary:

e. coup de grâce n. /ku də ɡras/ [literally stroke of grace] a blow by which one condemned or mortally wounded is ‘put out of his misery’ or dispatched quickly; hence figurative a finishing stroke, one that settles or puts an end to something.

Whether it puts competitors out of their misery or puts and end to the confusion resulting from the myriad of other bolt actions with little or nothing to distinguish one from another, American Rifle Company’s Coup De Grâce is certainly worthy of its name.

Simply put, the Coup De Grâce does more with less and looks great doing it with its beautiful design, DLC and salt bath nitrided finishes.

It’s Rem700 footprint receiver is machined with an integral recoil lug and integral 20 MOA rail.

The three-lug, 70-degree bolt uses interchangeable floating bolt heads and accommodates everything from 223 Rem on up to 338 Lapua.

Receiver and bolt work well with AICS mags but are optimized for incredibly smooth and reliable feeding using AIAW mags and conical breech barrels.

The AIAW mag will hard stop against the bottom of the receiver thus preventing interference with the bolt.

The back of the AICS mag will hard stop against the receiver but if pushed upwards, the forward tips of the feed lips will interfere with the bolt. The mag will be driven down when pushing the bolt forward. An optional forward hard stop for the AICS mag can be placed between the receiver and the stock/chassis.

Receiver-mounted passive (aka mechanical) ejector sends cases out at three o’clock through a large ejection port.

Controlled-round feed extractor grips a large portion of the case rim taking full advantage of the patented pivoting bolt handle that easily pulls even the most stubborn cartridges from the chamber.

The pivoting bolt handle can be swapped out for a fixed handle thus converting the action to one with conventional cam extraction better tolerated by highly sensitive triggers.

The entire bolt assembly is composed of only sixteen parts, but can function with as few as twelve, of which two are springs and one is a ball.

The entire bolt, even the striker assembly, can be disassembled in the field without the use of tools.

A screw-adjustable trigger hanger makes easy work of positioning Rem700 compatible triggers for bump-free bolt closing.

Dual cocking cams reduce friction within the bolt for easier bolt lift.

The bolt knob is our best ever and makes fast cycling really easy. Other knobs can also be adapted to the standard 5/16-24 handle thread.

The circular section of the bolt handle makes sweeping it back easy if that’s your preference.

Robust 9 o’clock bolt release has a direct load path to the receiver which protects the its pivot pin.

Patented toroidal bolt-lug bearing surfaces reduce stress.

The Coup De Grâce is explosively tested for safety at pressures that greatly exceed standard proof loads.

Weight: short action 947 grams (2.1 pounds), long action 1084 grams (2.4 pounds)

Why, you might ask, would we offer the Coup De Grâce at such a low price? Well, let's just say I'm a big fan of decentralized decision making and to that end, I think everyone should have long range rifle built on the best action ever offered by anyone at any price. But that's just me.

Enjoy

Ted

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When are pre-orders beginning

 

[JollyJerp]

Love the action!

 

[Chickentoast]

Make mine a Coupe de Gras instead.

 

[The D]

Make mine a Coupe de Gras instead.

If you want it misspelled I can bondo over the name and paint it however you want it spelled. For a fee, of course. And yes, forum trolls, I’ll kick in 10% to “big” guy

 

[Kadams1563]

Make mine a Coupe de Gras instead.

Just buy one from Vudoo and get a better roll mark on the side lol.

 

[goober23]

Looks like he's giving us another video soon

 

[PRSDietitian]

That thing is a BEAUTY!

 

[2aBaC̶a̶]

Damn, I do not use enough grease.

you're supposed to use greese?

 

[2aBaC̶a̶]

Make mine a Coupe de Gras instead.

I want one that says "Cut da Grass"

 

[4O6shootist]

I’m in for one for a 6.5 CM build!

I’ve been a long time fan of the Foundation Centurion stocks. Are we able to pair those with these actions?

Edit: It looks like they make the Centurion stocks for the Mausingfield. I suppose this is more of a question regarding whether the Mausingfield and CDG will have the same action inlet.

I called Foundation and requested an Archimedes inlet, I was assured a mausingfield would be good. I had to take a dreamel to the bolt cut inlet, plus none the body lines matched up. I went away from them. So ass heavy, they need 1.25 straights to balance with a 26" barrel or a 2# weight at end the arca rail. Not for me.......

 

[sheepdog697]

I’ve never put a blot gun together from components. Can someone tell me (without going through 21 pages) what type of barrel I would need for this? Would it be a prefit?

Im thinking of doing one of these in a krg X-ray chassis, and I think I could keep it under $2300. Just trying to figure out barrel costs.

Thanks in advance

 

[leftyk82]

"Buy one! You'll be glad you did."

-T. Karagias

 

[4O6shootist]

Can I still use my Archimedes action wrench?

 

[357Max]

Can I still use my Archimedes action wrench?

No needs a nw One.

 

[aviumvenator]

I’ve never put a blot gun together from components. Can someone tell me (without going through 21 pages) what type of barrel I would need for this? Would it be a prefit?

Im thinking of doing one of these in a krg X-ray chassis, and I think I could keep it under $2300. Just trying to figure out barrel costs.

Thanks in advance

I thought I read somewhere in this thread that PVA and PBB where setting up to offer the CDG prefits.

 

[brianf]

question on the trigger hanger..eyes were fuzzy... not glasses lol

the from screw is the adjustment on a bevel, which is nice idea

the rear screw is on a flat i guessing, so the downward pressure pusses the pins against the receiver body

can he trigger hanger "fall" out of the receiver of the rear screw backs off?

can the trigger hanger "fall" out of the reciever if the rear screw backs all the way out?

jjust thinking of safety in general, as we know set screws come loose all the time on equipment

thanks

i like the color for the hanger lol

 

[Tokay444]

question on the trigger hanger..eyes were fuzzy... not glasses lol

the from screw is the adjustment on a bevel, which is nice idea

the rear screw is on a flat i guessing, so the downward pressure pusses the pins against the receiver body

can he trigger hanger "fall" out of the receiver of the rear screw backs off?

can the trigger hanger "fall" out of the reciever if the rear screw backs all the way out?

jjust thinking of safety in general, as we know set screws come loose all the time on equipment

thanks

i like the color for the hanger lol

Looks like the rear screw would need to fail, and the front set screw would need to back out far enough that the pins could slide forward far enough to access the vertical slots before it could fall out.

 

[4O6shootist]

question on the trigger hanger..eyes were fuzzy... not glasses lol

the from screw is the adjustment on a bevel, which is nice idea

the rear screw is on a flat i guessing, so the downward pressure pusses the pins against the receiver body

can he trigger hanger "fall" out of the receiver of the rear screw backs off?

can the trigger hanger "fall" out of the reciever if the rear screw backs all the way out?

jjust thinking of safety in general, as we know set screws come loose all the time on equipment

thanks

i like the color for the hanger lol

The hanger cannot come out if the rear screw becomes loose, it will only allow the hanger to slide axially along the hanger face with bolt open. As long the front screw is in proper position the hanger should go back to correct position upon closing the bolt.

Technically the hanger could possibly come out the action if the rear screw fell out completely. I'm sure Ted designed some fail safes in here.

Lesson: blue locktite is your friend here.

 

[MilSpecOkie]

That's what it shipped with.

Mine were dry as a bone. Was it used?

 

[357Max]

Mine were dry as a bone. Was it used?

No direct from ARC.

 

[MilSpecOkie]

Weird, mine were dry except for some oil on the striker assembly.

 

[Citxmech]

i mean honestly unless you're in some kind of rush, you're better off waiting for like black friday when they have their sales. buy the action when it comes out and wait a bit.

Unless you're already getting the sale price now, and by Black Friday even the sale price will have been raised. Put another way, maybe the intro price is at or below the Black Friday price. And what will the wait be if you wait that long?

PS Put me down for skipping the flutes unless there's some compelling reason besides fashion. Form should follow function.

 

[Baron23]

Looks like he's giving us another video soon

Ted is one of the true innovators in bolt rifle design. He really does think outside the box. Very cool.

 

[jb0311]

Unless you're already getting the sale price now, and by Black Friday even the sale price will have been raised. Put another way, maybe the intro price is at or below the Black Friday price. And what will the wait be if you wait that long?

PS Put me down for skipping the flutes unless there's some compelling reason besides fashion. Form should follow function.

I believe they are talking about the xylo being on sale BF, not the new action.

 

[4O6shootist]

Weird, mine were dry except for some oil on the striker assembly.

I've got two arc actions, neither were slathered in what appears to be axle grease either lol