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[PRSDietitian]

X-caliber barrels will cut a conical breech for an added fee. (According to the email I got only about $25 extra)

So we can add them to the list of places I've talked to that said they would do prefits, or ARC said they would do prefits, or ARC said they are trying to get to do prefits

x-caliber
PVA
Preferred barrels
LRI
Straight Jacket
Proof

Hoping other guys like carbon six, mcgowen, IBI do prefits too. I am not sure if NSS will do the conical breech. I can email james and ask.

 

[Kiba]

Bugholes should have no issues doing them either, the 223 barrel I got from Greg for my 223 AIAX conversion uses a conical breech face and it was a prefit that I didn't have to send the action in for. Should be easy for him to chamber a CDG barrel.

 

[Tokay444]

X-caliber barrels will cut a conical breech for an added fee. (According to the email I got only about $25 extra)

$25 for a 3-10 second tool path?

 

[2aBaC̶a̶]

So we can add them to the list of places I've talked to that said they would do prefits, or ARC said they would do prefits, or ARC said they are trying to get to do prefits

x-caliber
PVA
Preferred barrels
LRI
Straight Jacket
Proof

Hoping other guys like carbon six, mcgowen, IBI do prefits too. I am not sure if NSS will do the conical breech. I can email james and ask.

I would clarify whether Xcal does an actual ARC shouldered prefit or just cuts a conical face into a savage small threaded barrel which you would use a nut with.

 

[st1650]

So we can add them to the list of places I've talked to that said they would do prefits, or ARC said they would do prefits, or ARC said they are trying to get to do prefits

x-caliber
PVA
Preferred barrels
LRI
Straight Jacket
Proof

Hoping other guys like carbon six, mcgowen, IBI do prefits too. I am not sure if NSS will do the conical breech. I can email james and ask.

Not sure I would trust Mcgowen for prefits.

 

[PRSDietitian]

Not sure I would trust Mcgowen for prefits.

I personally haven't had any bad experiences. The ones I've shot, I'd put up with Criterion, but that's just my experiences. I liked them better than X-cal

 

[aviumvenator]

X-caliber barrels will cut a conical breech for an added fee. (According to the email I got only about $25 extra)

Do they offer ARC prefits?

 

[Awag1000]

here is some clarification. For the X-caliber barrels. I Just asked about the Savage small shank prefit.

 

[Benfield_Precision]

This has been nagging in the back of my head. I did a little ruff scaling from the sketch & come up with about .115" for how far the cone needs to extend down below the chamber to guide a .223 projectile in a 223 chamber. If my math is right then the tenon would need to be at least .067" longer than the std. .675" used for the flat breach.

What's bugging me is how will that clear the extractor & opposing lug nub/case support??? They stick out about .110" on a Nuke.
Almost seams like 223 would need a stepped cone breach?
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Your thinking of it wrong... the only thing that exstends past the flat bolt face appears to be the extractor....trust the guys making the action....they may have doen this once or twice. Also conned breaches are EASY, been done for decasdes on alomsot ALL BAT benchrest actions and EVERY Win. Model 70.

 

[Tokay444]

here is some clarification. For the X-caliber barrels. I Just asked about the Savage small shank prefit.

Scratch them off the list. $25 for a chamfer is even more ridiculous than $25 for an appropriate breech cone.

 

[Hawk in WY]

Sorry if this is a stupid question: Is the conical breech required for all feeding systems; aics, aw, dbl, etc?

 

[MilSpecOkie]

X-caliber barrels will cut a conical breech for an added fee. (According to the email I got only about $25 extra)

Just the breech and still uses Savage nut correct?

 

[Awag1000]

Yes

Just the breech and still uses Savage nut correct?

 

[MilSpecOkie]

Yes

I’m curious why X-Caliber won’t make shouldered prefits?

 

[CMP70306]

X-caliber barrels will cut a conical breech for an added fee. (According to the email I got only about $25 extra)

I would clarify whether Xcal does an actual ARC shouldered prefit or just cuts a conical face into a savage small threaded barrel which you would use a nut with.

That sounds good to me, I asked preferred about it but per their last email they were only doing full prefits for the CDG and not cutting the breech on savage prefits.

Scratch them off the list. $25 for a chamfer is even more ridiculous than $25 for an appropriate breech cone.

His email stated he would check with the foreman and it could be free not that it was definitely going to cost $25. Even if it was I’d still pay for it because it lets me continue to use my Barloc and is still substantially cheaper than a shouldered Barloc.

 

[Tokay444]

That sounds good to me, I asked preferred about it but per their last email they were only doing full prefits for the CDG and not cutting the breech on savage prefits.



His email stated he would check with the foreman and it could be free not that it was definitely going to cost $25. Even if it was I’d still pay for it because it lets me continue to use my Barloc and is still substantially cheaper than a shouldered Barloc.

It's all irrelevant if it's just a chamfer.

 

[Aaron Crist]

We have a customer that is on the order list for your action, and he wants a pre-fit with conical breech face. Do you guys have a tenon print?
Thanks, Aaron
MOS-Tek

 

[blksno]

We have a customer that is on the order list for your action, and he wants a pre-fit with conical breech face. Do you guys have a tenon print?
Thanks, Aaron
MOS-Tek

Bet?

 

[7mmShooter]

Should be available soon I’m sure… Glad to have y’all on board

 

[MilSpecOkie]

We have a customer that is on the order list for your action, and he wants a pre-fit with conical breech face. Do you guys have a tenon print?
Thanks, Aaron
MOS-Tek

I don’t think it’s finalized yet.

 

[HemiPowrd]

Just got an email from ARC. CDG preorders start 2/8/23 with short actions to ship 8 weeks later.

 

[carlooa]

Hope he ships them April Fool's to fuck with everyone.

 

[7mmShooter]

Hope he ships them April Fool's to fuck with everyone.

I was thinking the same thing!

 

[tanders11]

Anyone know if barreled actions will be available for preorder or just the action?

 

[PRSDietitian]

Anyone know if barreled actions will be available for preorder or just the action?

Likely only the action

 

[carlooa]

Lol it’s funny that people will still whine about delays after asking for something that ARC didn’t even want to offer for preorder.

 

[epeet]

Any estimates on weight of the hunter version, or info on if it will be priced the same?

 

[padfoot 37]

Will complete rifle packages be available? If so at what price point? Last week a friend of mine asked me what bolt action he should get and mentioned eventually getting a chassis. I doubt he'll spend the coin on a $4k+ full on custom build, but something near the Nucleus Gen2 rifle price point just may land you guys a sale.

And me a sale...

 

[Simonsza1]

Here we go

 

[brianf]

do we have an answer to how many will make the preorder sale, and what the price bump will be?

 

[S3th]

Preorders start tomorrow but we don’t have a video explaining different options. Do I go with a fixed handle or pivoting.

 

[RFutch]

Preorders start tomorrow but we don’t have a video explaining different options. Do I go with a fixed handle or pivoting.

Pivoting duh

 

[shootertom]

The pre-order emails are out folks. Tomorrow is the day and I am excited to partake!

 

[shootertom]

Preorders start tomorrow but we don’t have a video explaining different options. Do I go with a fixed handle or pivoting.

I believe it comes with both.

 

[lash]

Lol it’s funny that people will still whine about delays after asking for something that ARC didn’t even want to offer for preorder.

Yes. Expect that there will be whiners and those calling, “just to follow up” even though they’ve been asked/told not to do so. Guaranteed.

 

[matleez]

Kinda pissed I didn't get an email. Woke up to a text from someone saying dates and times and I was lost as hell

 

[Skunkworx]

do we have an answer to how many will make the preorder sale, and what the price bump will be?

They don’t set aside a predetermined number of actions for the preorder. Usually they will open the preorder for a limited time (several weeks for example). You buy in, get on their list, and when your action is made you’ll receive it in the future based on order of where your name is on the list. Intro price usually is somewhere in the ballpark of couple of hundred off what ever they plan on offering the full retail price. I think my gen 1 nuke preorder was around $850? and retail is $999 so you get the jist of it.

They usually offer a decent Black Friday sale on actions so you don’t have to worry about fomo on the preorder. Honestly based on how the first nuke preorders went you might want to wait and see how things go anyways.

 

[Puredrive]

Hoping for a smooth transaction.

 

[sheepdog697]

Hoping for a smooth transaction.


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Haha right?

 

[RFutch]

Just told my boss not to bother me at 11 ET tomorrow.

 

[PRSDietitian]

When you set an alarm for 10am CST...and realized it says 2/8 and not 2/7...

 

[xfyre101]

When you set an alarm for 10am CST...and realized it says 2/8 and not 2/7...

haha i thought they releaed it when they sent the email. and went straight to the site.. was confused when i still wasnt able to add it to the cart xD

 

[Rate_of_Twist]

This has all the makings of a crashed website tomorrow!

Still not sure if the CDG is for me I guess. I know I want a .223 build but might make sense to grab a second Nuc instead for the CDG for barrel compatibility etc.

 

[FredHammer]

Now... pivoting or or STD bolt...hmmm...
Knob options...

 

[TheOE800]

This has all the makings of a crashed website tomorrow!

Still not sure if the CDG is for me I guess. I know I want a .223 build but might make sense to grab a second Nuc instead for the CDG for barrel compatibility etc.

This seems like a great choice for AW-fed calibers…but I have a need for .223 sized stuff right now.

Is it gonna feed like poo with an AICS? Where do I get said spacer for AICS mags? Does the stock inlet need to be modified?

 

[PRSDietitian]

Definitely considering their hunter for an NRL hunter action too. I am considering the Ultimatum Defacto too because the price and IBI prefits for it are affordable but being boxed in to only IBI prefits is a little annoying

 

[Citxmech]

Any idea if we will be able to order additional bolt heads at the time of preorder?

 

[brianf]

They don’t set aside a predetermined number of actions for the preorder. Usually they will open the preorder for a limited time (several weeks for example). You buy in, get on their list, and when your action is made you’ll receive it in the future based on order of where your name is on the list. Intro price usually is somewhere in the ballpark of couple of hundred off what ever they plan on offering the full retail price. I think my gen 1 nuke preorder was around $850? and retail is $999 so you get the jist of it.

They usually offer a decent Black Friday sale on actions so you don’t have to worry about fomo on the preorder. Honestly based on how the first nuke preorders went you might want to wait and see how things go anyways.

personally im going to wait until the second or third round, so the bugs are fixed by then


preorders are figured out before hand via batch size, ROI for cashflow

EX; batch size of 100 actions for 3 production cycles is the preorder qty etc

they aren't free for all's on inventory / production for a undetermined qty of goods

..unless they do financials on a yellow pad then all bets are off ... lol

excited to see these in some chassis though

 

[Kiba]

personally im going to wait until the second or third round, so the bugs are fixed by then

Regarding bugs... I'm thinking the release of the CDG will be more like the Archimedes and not like the nucleus based on previous lessons learned from the nucleus rollout and subsequent revisions.

The nucleus went through a couple of revisions after the initial release based on user feedback... striker spring weight, bolt lug ramp geometry, bolt release style, etc. The Archimedes on the other hand was released in the same form it sells in today as far as I can tell. I have one pre order Archimedes and 2 more that were ordered a couple years later and they appear and feel identical. The Archimedes parts list has no part number splits based on generation or serial number. There may have been some process changes behind the scenes for production efficiencies, but nothing that resulted in changes requiring new part numbers or a "gen 2."

Not saying releasing the CDG into the wild might let the end users uncover some issues that Ted and crew didn't find and address during testing (I'm thinking we'll hear reports of mag and mag latch tweaks being needed for oddball calibers to feed reliably because of the 6 o'clock lug; no way can ARC test every caliber and bullet/oal combo for feeding) but I have a feeling the rollout of the CDG is going to go much more smoothly like the rollout of the Archimedes.

 

[Rex_Allen]

The black or red is just for the bolt handle?