Re: It Lives! Largest XLR ever!!!
you should have made it a folding stock... that would be more practical
you should have made it a folding stock... that would be more practical
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Re: It Lives! Largest XLR ever!!!
For those wondering about the firearms laws in California...
From the office of the Attorney General of the State of California... http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/dwcl/12301.php
"12301 thru 12312 Destructive Devices
CHAPTER 2.5. DESTRUCTIVE DEVICES
12301. (a) The term "destructive device," as used in this chapter, shall include any of the following weapons: (1) Any projectile containing any explosive or incendiary material or any other chemical substance, including, but not limited to, that which is commonly known as tracer or incendiary ammunition, except tracer ammunition manufactured for use in shotguns. (2) Any bomb, grenade, explosive missile, or similar device or any launching device therefor. (3) <span style="font-weight: bold">Any weapon of a caliber greater than 0.60 caliber which fires fixed ammunition, or any ammunition therefor, other than a shotgun (smooth or rifled bore) conforming to the definition of a "destructive device" found in subsection (b) of Section 479.11 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations, shotgun ammunition (single projectile or shot), antique rifle, or an antique cannon.</span> For purposes of this section, the term "antique cannon" means any cannon manufactured before January 1, 1899, which has been rendered incapable of firing or for which ammunition is no longer manufactured in the United States and is not readily available in the ordinary channels of commercial trade. The term "antique rifle" means a firearm conforming to the definition of an "antique firearm" in Section 479.11 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations...
12303. Any person, firm, or corporation who, within this state, possesses any destructive device, other than fixed ammunition of a caliber greater than .60 caliber, except as provided by this chapter, is guilty of a public offense and upon conviction thereof shall be punished by imprisonment in the county jail for a term not to exceed one year, or in state prison, or by a fine not to exceed ten thousand dollars ($10,000) or by both such fine and imprisonment..."
Sections 18900 through 18910 deal with permitting destructive devices. .. http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=pen&group=18001-19000&file=18900-18910
Here is a link to the danegerous weapons application form...
Dangerous Weapons Permit Application
However, "“Applicant are required to provide clear and convincing evidence that there is a bona fide market or public necessity for the issuance of a dangerous weapons license or permit and that the applicants can satisfy that need without endangering the public safety.”
Title 11, Division 5, Chapter 7, Article 3, Section 4128
"(1) Sales to and/or manufacture for sales to law enforcement, military and/or dangerous weapon licensees/permittees.
(2) Training, research and development; and/or manufacturing pursuant to government contract.
(3) Use and/or manufacture of dangerous weapons as props in commercial motion picture, television production, or other commercial entertainment events.
(4) Possession for the purpose of maintaining a collection of destructive devices as defined in Penal Code section 16460 but such possession shall not be allowed for short-barreled shotguns, short-barreled rifles, machineguns or assault weapons.
(5) Repair and maintenance of dangerous weapons lawfully possessed by others.
(6) Use of dangerous weapons in activities sanctioned by government military agencies by members of those agencies.
(7) The sale of assault weapons and/or the manufacture of assault weapons for the sale to, purchase by, or possession of assault weapons by: the agencies listed in Penal Code section 30625, and the officers described in Penal Code section 30630; entities and persons who have been issued assault weapon permits; entities outside the state who have, in effect, a federal firearms dealer's license solely for the purpose of distribution to an entity listed herein; federal law enforcement and military agencies; law enforcement and military agencies of other states; and foreign governments and agencies approved by the United States State Department.
(8) Use of dangerous weapons for the design, manufacture, demonstration, and sales of dangerous weapons accessories to law enforcement and military agencies, qualifying peace officers, and California dangerous weapons licensee/permittees."
For those wondering about the firearms laws in California...
From the office of the Attorney General of the State of California... http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/dwcl/12301.php
"12301 thru 12312 Destructive Devices
CHAPTER 2.5. DESTRUCTIVE DEVICES
12301. (a) The term "destructive device," as used in this chapter, shall include any of the following weapons: (1) Any projectile containing any explosive or incendiary material or any other chemical substance, including, but not limited to, that which is commonly known as tracer or incendiary ammunition, except tracer ammunition manufactured for use in shotguns. (2) Any bomb, grenade, explosive missile, or similar device or any launching device therefor. (3) <span style="font-weight: bold">Any weapon of a caliber greater than 0.60 caliber which fires fixed ammunition, or any ammunition therefor, other than a shotgun (smooth or rifled bore) conforming to the definition of a "destructive device" found in subsection (b) of Section 479.11 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations, shotgun ammunition (single projectile or shot), antique rifle, or an antique cannon.</span> For purposes of this section, the term "antique cannon" means any cannon manufactured before January 1, 1899, which has been rendered incapable of firing or for which ammunition is no longer manufactured in the United States and is not readily available in the ordinary channels of commercial trade. The term "antique rifle" means a firearm conforming to the definition of an "antique firearm" in Section 479.11 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations...
12303. Any person, firm, or corporation who, within this state, possesses any destructive device, other than fixed ammunition of a caliber greater than .60 caliber, except as provided by this chapter, is guilty of a public offense and upon conviction thereof shall be punished by imprisonment in the county jail for a term not to exceed one year, or in state prison, or by a fine not to exceed ten thousand dollars ($10,000) or by both such fine and imprisonment..."
Sections 18900 through 18910 deal with permitting destructive devices. .. http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=pen&group=18001-19000&file=18900-18910
Here is a link to the danegerous weapons application form...
Dangerous Weapons Permit Application
However, "“Applicant are required to provide clear and convincing evidence that there is a bona fide market or public necessity for the issuance of a dangerous weapons license or permit and that the applicants can satisfy that need without endangering the public safety.”
Title 11, Division 5, Chapter 7, Article 3, Section 4128
"(1) Sales to and/or manufacture for sales to law enforcement, military and/or dangerous weapon licensees/permittees.
(2) Training, research and development; and/or manufacturing pursuant to government contract.
(3) Use and/or manufacture of dangerous weapons as props in commercial motion picture, television production, or other commercial entertainment events.
(4) Possession for the purpose of maintaining a collection of destructive devices as defined in Penal Code section 16460 but such possession shall not be allowed for short-barreled shotguns, short-barreled rifles, machineguns or assault weapons.
(5) Repair and maintenance of dangerous weapons lawfully possessed by others.
(6) Use of dangerous weapons in activities sanctioned by government military agencies by members of those agencies.
(7) The sale of assault weapons and/or the manufacture of assault weapons for the sale to, purchase by, or possession of assault weapons by: the agencies listed in Penal Code section 30625, and the officers described in Penal Code section 30630; entities and persons who have been issued assault weapon permits; entities outside the state who have, in effect, a federal firearms dealer's license solely for the purpose of distribution to an entity listed herein; federal law enforcement and military agencies; law enforcement and military agencies of other states; and foreign governments and agencies approved by the United States State Department.
(8) Use of dangerous weapons for the design, manufacture, demonstration, and sales of dangerous weapons accessories to law enforcement and military agencies, qualifying peace officers, and California dangerous weapons licensee/permittees."
Re: It Lives! Largest XLR ever!!!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RedDevil</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm surprised the guys over at Red Jacket didn't think of this first... It would have definitely been a game changer. </div></div>
Neva bin dun befo.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RedDevil</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm surprised the guys over at Red Jacket didn't think of this first... It would have definitely been a game changer. </div></div>
Neva bin dun befo.
Re: It Lives! Largest XLR ever!!!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: quacktastic</div><div class="ubbcode-body">you should have made it a folding stock... that would be more practical
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+1!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: quacktastic</div><div class="ubbcode-body">you should have made it a folding stock... that would be more practical
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+1!
Re: It Lives! Largest XLR ever!!!
Isnt saojao`s 14.9mm cartridge based on the 14.5x114mm Russian round? If so, thats one helluva case. The .50BMG has 292gr H2O capacity, the 12.7x108mm Russian at 355gr H2O, and the big 14.5x114mm has 656gr H2O capacity. Its crazy to think that thing has over twice the cap of a BMG. IIRC, saojao is only using bullets in the realm of like 1000-1500 grains. I would think at that diameter, youd be looking at closer to a half lb. projectile weight(3500gr) to get the highest BC out of that diameter. Maybe its changed since then, but ~1000gr seems awful light(LOL!) for 14.9mm. Curious to hear/see more updates
Isnt saojao`s 14.9mm cartridge based on the 14.5x114mm Russian round? If so, thats one helluva case. The .50BMG has 292gr H2O capacity, the 12.7x108mm Russian at 355gr H2O, and the big 14.5x114mm has 656gr H2O capacity. Its crazy to think that thing has over twice the cap of a BMG. IIRC, saojao is only using bullets in the realm of like 1000-1500 grains. I would think at that diameter, youd be looking at closer to a half lb. projectile weight(3500gr) to get the highest BC out of that diameter. Maybe its changed since then, but ~1000gr seems awful light(LOL!) for 14.9mm. Curious to hear/see more updates
Re: It Lives! Largest XLR ever!!!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hlee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">For those wondering about the firearms laws in California...
From the office of the Attorney General of the State of California... http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/dwcl/12301.php
"12301 thru 12312 Destructive Devices
CHAPTER 2.5. DESTRUCTIVE DEVICES
12301. (a) The term "destructive device," as used in this chapter, shall include any of the following weapons: (1) Any projectile containing any explosive or incendiary material or any other chemical substance, including, but not limited to, that which is commonly known as tracer or incendiary ammunition, except tracer ammunition manufactured for use in shotguns. (2) Any bomb, grenade, explosive missile, or similar device or any launching device therefor. (3) <span style="font-weight: bold">Any weapon of a caliber greater than 0.60 caliber which fires fixed ammunition, or any ammunition therefor, other than a shotgun (smooth or rifled bore) conforming to the definition of a "destructive device" found in subsection (b) of Section 479.11 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations, shotgun ammunition (single projectile or shot), antique rifle, or an antique cannon.</span> For purposes of this section, the term "antique cannon" means any cannon manufactured before January 1, 1899, which has been rendered incapable of firing or for which ammunition is no longer manufactured in the United States and is not readily available in the ordinary channels of commercial trade. The term "antique rifle" means a firearm conforming to the definition of an "antique firearm" in Section 479.11 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations...
12303. Any person, firm, or corporation who, within this state, possesses any destructive device, other than fixed ammunition of a caliber greater than .60 caliber, except as provided by this chapter, is guilty of a public offense and upon conviction thereof shall be punished by imprisonment in the county jail for a term not to exceed one year, or in state prison, or by a fine not to exceed ten thousand dollars ($10,000) or by both such fine and imprisonment..."
Sections 18900 through 18910 deal with permitting destructive devices. .. http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=pen&group=18001-19000&file=18900-18910
Here is a link to the danegerous weapons application form...
Dangerous Weapons Permit Application
However, "“Applicant are required to provide clear and convincing evidence that there is a bona fide market or public necessity for the issuance of a dangerous weapons license or permit and that the applicants can satisfy that need without endangering the public safety.”
Title 11, Division 5, Chapter 7, Article 3, Section 4128
"(1) Sales to and/or manufacture for sales to law enforcement, military and/or dangerous weapon licensees/permittees.
(2) Training, research and development; and/or manufacturing pursuant to government contract.
(3) Use and/or manufacture of dangerous weapons as props in commercial motion picture, television production, or other commercial entertainment events.
(4) Possession for the purpose of maintaining a collection of destructive devices as defined in Penal Code section 16460 but such possession shall not be allowed for short-barreled shotguns, short-barreled rifles, machineguns or assault weapons.
(5) Repair and maintenance of dangerous weapons lawfully possessed by others.
(6) Use of dangerous weapons in activities sanctioned by government military agencies by members of those agencies.
(7) The sale of assault weapons and/or the manufacture of assault weapons for the sale to, purchase by, or possession of assault weapons by: the agencies listed in Penal Code section 30625, and the officers described in Penal Code section 30630; entities and persons who have been issued assault weapon permits; entities outside the state who have, in effect, a federal firearms dealer's license solely for the purpose of distribution to an entity listed herein; federal law enforcement and military agencies; law enforcement and military agencies of other states; and foreign governments and agencies approved by the United States State Department.
(8) Use of dangerous weapons for the design, manufacture, demonstration, and sales of dangerous weapons accessories to law enforcement and military agencies, qualifying peace officers, and California dangerous weapons licensee/permittees."
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25.4mm x .60in = 15.24mm. It depends if theyre measuring the lands or the grooves, but it looks like 14.9mm will come in below .60cal either way, even if by a very slim margin were they to measure the grooves.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hlee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">For those wondering about the firearms laws in California...
From the office of the Attorney General of the State of California... http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/dwcl/12301.php
"12301 thru 12312 Destructive Devices
CHAPTER 2.5. DESTRUCTIVE DEVICES
12301. (a) The term "destructive device," as used in this chapter, shall include any of the following weapons: (1) Any projectile containing any explosive or incendiary material or any other chemical substance, including, but not limited to, that which is commonly known as tracer or incendiary ammunition, except tracer ammunition manufactured for use in shotguns. (2) Any bomb, grenade, explosive missile, or similar device or any launching device therefor. (3) <span style="font-weight: bold">Any weapon of a caliber greater than 0.60 caliber which fires fixed ammunition, or any ammunition therefor, other than a shotgun (smooth or rifled bore) conforming to the definition of a "destructive device" found in subsection (b) of Section 479.11 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations, shotgun ammunition (single projectile or shot), antique rifle, or an antique cannon.</span> For purposes of this section, the term "antique cannon" means any cannon manufactured before January 1, 1899, which has been rendered incapable of firing or for which ammunition is no longer manufactured in the United States and is not readily available in the ordinary channels of commercial trade. The term "antique rifle" means a firearm conforming to the definition of an "antique firearm" in Section 479.11 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations...
12303. Any person, firm, or corporation who, within this state, possesses any destructive device, other than fixed ammunition of a caliber greater than .60 caliber, except as provided by this chapter, is guilty of a public offense and upon conviction thereof shall be punished by imprisonment in the county jail for a term not to exceed one year, or in state prison, or by a fine not to exceed ten thousand dollars ($10,000) or by both such fine and imprisonment..."
Sections 18900 through 18910 deal with permitting destructive devices. .. http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=pen&group=18001-19000&file=18900-18910
Here is a link to the danegerous weapons application form...
Dangerous Weapons Permit Application
However, "“Applicant are required to provide clear and convincing evidence that there is a bona fide market or public necessity for the issuance of a dangerous weapons license or permit and that the applicants can satisfy that need without endangering the public safety.”
Title 11, Division 5, Chapter 7, Article 3, Section 4128
"(1) Sales to and/or manufacture for sales to law enforcement, military and/or dangerous weapon licensees/permittees.
(2) Training, research and development; and/or manufacturing pursuant to government contract.
(3) Use and/or manufacture of dangerous weapons as props in commercial motion picture, television production, or other commercial entertainment events.
(4) Possession for the purpose of maintaining a collection of destructive devices as defined in Penal Code section 16460 but such possession shall not be allowed for short-barreled shotguns, short-barreled rifles, machineguns or assault weapons.
(5) Repair and maintenance of dangerous weapons lawfully possessed by others.
(6) Use of dangerous weapons in activities sanctioned by government military agencies by members of those agencies.
(7) The sale of assault weapons and/or the manufacture of assault weapons for the sale to, purchase by, or possession of assault weapons by: the agencies listed in Penal Code section 30625, and the officers described in Penal Code section 30630; entities and persons who have been issued assault weapon permits; entities outside the state who have, in effect, a federal firearms dealer's license solely for the purpose of distribution to an entity listed herein; federal law enforcement and military agencies; law enforcement and military agencies of other states; and foreign governments and agencies approved by the United States State Department.
(8) Use of dangerous weapons for the design, manufacture, demonstration, and sales of dangerous weapons accessories to law enforcement and military agencies, qualifying peace officers, and California dangerous weapons licensee/permittees."
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25.4mm x .60in = 15.24mm. It depends if theyre measuring the lands or the grooves, but it looks like 14.9mm will come in below .60cal either way, even if by a very slim margin were they to measure the grooves.
Re: It Lives! Largest XLR ever!!!
This is:
1. a MOTHER SHIP killer for alien invasions
2. a whaling gun
3. a Taliban hootch destroyer
4. a STATEMENT!
This is:
1. a MOTHER SHIP killer for alien invasions
2. a whaling gun
3. a Taliban hootch destroyer
4. a STATEMENT!
Re: It Lives! Largest XLR ever!!!
This is truly an awesome build, but I'm curious as to a couple things. 1st, brass sourcing and case dimensions, 2nd, bullet sourcing and construction, 3rd, total price of the build, lastly, what optics were mounted on it, and with what rings. Again, truly jaw-dropping build ya'll.
Edit: also what is the twist rate on the barrel?
Edit 2: The more I think about it, the more questions I have. What kind of powder and how much?
This is truly an awesome build, but I'm curious as to a couple things. 1st, brass sourcing and case dimensions, 2nd, bullet sourcing and construction, 3rd, total price of the build, lastly, what optics were mounted on it, and with what rings. Again, truly jaw-dropping build ya'll.
Edit: also what is the twist rate on the barrel?
Edit 2: The more I think about it, the more questions I have. What kind of powder and how much?
Re: It Lives! Largest XLR ever!!!
That thing is sick to say the least.
Nice use of the swing-set to make a quadpod sling. Shoulda got on top and rode her.
Put a can on and shoulder up to that puppy
That thing is sick to say the least.
Nice use of the swing-set to make a quadpod sling. Shoulda got on top and rode her.
Put a can on and shoulder up to that puppy
Re: It Lives! Largest XLR ever!!!
Funny this thread comes back so strong. It wasn't nearly as popular over in ELR.
Funny this thread comes back so strong. It wasn't nearly as popular over in ELR.
