M40 Build Guide

[Bolt_Trash]

... I'm looking for the threaded front screw. I think I've got a source for one but they haven't gotten back to me yet. Plus, there is always the gun shows, maybe I'll get lucky one of these times.

Patience certainly pays off!

Yes it does!! And, you have the satisfaction of knowing that you've put in the sweat equity and are making every effort to be as accurate as possible. No small accomplishment. Even doing the front swivel assembly, correctly, is a project in-and-off-itself.

Remember that blind squirrel that finds the nut? Well, it found one, only because it WAS LOOKING for one. There's a lot to be said for 'working hard.'

Don't hesitate to buy-out your sources "supply" of the 725 "Threaded Post" swivel.

Your M40 is coming along nicely- Congratulations!

 

[MescaBug]

All valid points. I've built a few flintlock rifles from scratch so a little woodworking never bothered me. Plus, I like the idea of doing the finish work on the stock as well. But I can also appreciate not having to do all these extras and having a drop-in as well.

Agree 100%. Being a part time luthier, I also enjoy working with wood. That makes a build a little more, challenging

 

[usmchog1965]

Agree 100%. Being a part time luthier, I also enjoy working with wood. That makes a build a little more, challenging

Yup, unfortunately for me, this build has gone on long enough. Once I get the metal coated, final inletting, and find a suitable scope I'll be anxious to start shooting again. I really look forward to taking my M40 and '03a3 to local competitions.

 

[usmchog1965]

Just thought I'd drop in here and let everyone know, there's a supposed (it looks genuine to me) M40 Gen 1 scope on the "Bay" right now. No bids at this time and the starting bid is $2,700. Auction has about 4 days left. I've attached the link below. Good Luck!!

Original USMC 3x9 Redfield for The Early Remington M40 Sniper Rifle | eBay

For those interested, the scope ended up selling for just over $4,000. Crazy!!

 

[Deleted member 10043]

Only 4 bids too.

 

[eodcam]

The seller is an awesome guy and was an USMC sniper in Vietnam.

 

[USMCSGT0331]

Given the choice, would you gents choose the original green Redfield scope or the used Remington M40 commemorative rifle (links below)? I ask because they both sold yesterday and both fetched around $4,000 each:

M40 Commemorative USMC Remington 700 Sniper Rifle : Bolt Action Rifles at GunBroker.com

Original USMC 3x9 Redfield for The Early Remington M40 Sniper Rifle | eBay

 

[eodcam]

Thanks, now I'm sick for selling my commemorative for so cheap!

 

[Deleted member 10043]

Geez, I had know idea they increased in value this much. I been shooting the shit out of mine. I paid $1200 for it in 2006 new.

 

[usmchog1965]

Given the choice, would you gents choose the original green Redfield scope or the used Remington M40 commemorative rifle (links below)? I ask because they both sold yesterday and both fetched around $4,000 each:

M40 Commemorative USMC Remington 700 Sniper Rifle : Bolt Action Rifles at GunBroker.com

Original USMC 3x9 Redfield for The Early Remington M40 Sniper Rifle | eBay

Since the Remington (as nice as it is) is still just a clone, There's not going to be that much difference between theirs and mine. Since the majority of parts on my clone are from '68, an original M40 scope would be the finishing touch on my build. But that is just my opinion.

 

[popeye089]

Something is always worth what a single individual is willing to pay. I looked at buying a Remington Commemorative Clone but in the end I felt doing a clone myself using true era parts would be worth more sentimental wise. That's just my opinion.

 

[Deleted member 10043]

Neither the SSA or the scope is worth $3000. But most people don't realize the SSA is a 40x rifle and to have a actual M40/M700 with the right scope is desirable. Maybe that is why people are willing to pay that much. I put a couple of gen 1 scopes on my mine and they are fun but I went back to a Leupold Rifleman 3-9x for recreational shooting. After all, the scopes are over 45 years old. They didn't hold up new and I suspect they will bomb out under stress so they go in the closet and when it comes time to retire the rifle I'll put a green one on it. It will increase the value, obviously.

 

[aur0ra145]

How many coats of BLO are ya'll using? My barreled action is at the gunsmith getting cut down to size so all I've got to play with is "that fucking stock" as its come to be known.

 

[Bolt_Trash]

Amendment: See Post(s) #981 and #983 - Remington M40 Commemorative SSA LTD edition of 1,200 to possibly 1,500 units and not 1,000.

...

M40 Commemorative USMC Remington 700 Sniper Rifle : Bolt Action Rifles at GunBroker.com

Does anybody see a problem here... ?

Remington's 2006 -SSA LTD edition was 1,000 units with SN's SSA0001 to SSA1000. And this one is... what SN?

 

[Bolt_Trash]

The M40 Forearm... a closer look

The forearm on the M40 (this is an SSA) is a lot slimmer/trimmer than many think, or would like...

Those clone reproduction stocks leave plenty of extra wood to take away, to get to this.

An original for comparison:

 

[Deleted member 10043]

There was 1200 produced not 1000. Also these stocks are slimmer than the pics indicate. There are plenty of other images on the net to compare .

Sent from my C771 using Tapatalk 2

 

[Bolt_Trash]

Amendment: See Post(s) #981 and #983 - Remington M40 Commemorative SSA LTD edition of 1,200 to possibly 1,500 units and not 1,000.

I've not seen, nor found, any reference to a 1200 unit production, but the SSA SN on this Commemorative rifle certainly lends credence to that. Was the Leupold Commemorative scope a LTD SN edition or open production? If LTD, was it to 1,000 or 1,200? Just curious, as I understood there was a direct/equivalent relationship.

There was 1200 produced not 1000. Also these stocks are slimmer than the pics indicate. There are plenty of other images on the net to compare .

Sent from my C771 using Tapatalk 2

 

[MescaBug]

There is even a mention of 1500 units on Chuck Mawhinney's own web site. I always thought it was 1000.

"For many years Vietnam era snipers like Chuck, as well as hobbyists and collectors have attempted to build and/or procure an M40 rifle so they could relive that time and revel in the weapon that served them so admirably. In 2004 the USMC Scout Sniper Association (SSA) approached Remington in the hopes that this rifle could be manufactured once again as a special commemorative product for this niche market. As a result of many individual’s efforts, this rifle was released to the public via the SSA and approximately 1500 were sold. The one issue that plagued this initial effort was the lack of synchronicity between the various individuals and companies, thus when the rifle was released it was done so without a comparable optic and as such was an incomplete piece."

 

[Deleted member 10043]

+1 Mescabug

 

[Bolt_Trash]

+1 Mescabug

+2 MescaBug... and I'll amend my above posting to reflect a 1200 to possibly 1500 unit LTD production.

To be be fair, the number 1,000 is most definitely wrong, as the above photo, of SN. SSA1045, clearly demonstrates, BUT it is also THE number used in virtually every general reference and marketing/sales description of the Commemorative.

 

[Deleted member 10043]

I can't find the certificate right now but I believe the project was a joint venture between Remington, Iron Brigade Armory, and the SSA. There was also Leupold that was late on delivering the scope and Badger that reproduced the base and rings with the correct MOA built in. The latter two didn't make it on the finished rifle but they are now available through SWFA.

http://www.opticstalk.com/uploads/298/Leupold_USMC_w_Badger2.jpg

 

[Bolt_Trash]

Per SWFA:

"Stock # - 30669B

1" Rings
Fits Current Remington 700 Rifles

Badger Ordnance has made a limited run of Replica M40 Redfield Style rings and base. These are exact replicas with the exception of the Redfield markings. These are made to fit current production Remington M700 rifles. They are not to be used on rifles with an “A” prefix serial number or older. They come assembled and ready to bolt on."

... and Badger that reproduced the base and rings with the correct MOA built in. The latter two didn't make it on the finished rifle but they are now available through SWFA.

http://www.opticstalk.com/uploads/298/Leupold_USMC_w_Badger2.jpg

Only current production Remington 700's... and that's the rub.

Bummer dude... So, the ONLY viable alternative if building a Type-1 M40, is finding an original Redfield 40X mount, or locating a Redfield 722 "Patent Date" mount and either using 'as-is' and/or modifying it.

 

[Deleted member 10043]

All the old bases people have been using fit current production rifles. What is the period for "A" prefix rifles? I believe A prefix rifles are mid 1970-1980 before the M40 and after the M40 SSA. It doesn't make sense.

 

[eodcam]

Badger made Non Prefix and Prefix spec Mounts. You had to let them know what you wanted to insure you got the correct mount.
The originals were the non prefix six digit sn receivers, so for the spec tribute rifle guys, you needed the non prefix mount. All others the prefix mounts.

 

[Bolt_Trash]

So, a Badger M40 mount box, as identified below, would be suitable for the SSA Commemorative?

How are the "Current Model" boxes identified? Anybody have one of these "Current Model" mounts and/or boxes that we could get a photo of?

Badger made Non Prefix and Prefix spec Mounts. You had to let them know what you wanted to insure you got the correct mount.
The originals were the non prefix six digit sn receivers, so for the spec tribute rifle guys, you needed the non prefix mount. All others the prefix mounts.

 

[Deleted member 10043]

Yes, that is what I have mounted on the SSA. What you have pictured there. "Alpha/numeric S/N only" The older Redfield, long and short, bases fit it as well. I have mounted all three at different times. The rear has two holes for the mount. One for short base and one for long base.

 

[rlm8541]

Ok, thought I would mix things up a bit for fun...lolol
So one of the times EODCAM and I were hanging out at PWS last year we were snapping some pics of rifles from "The Rolling Rack".
This is a pic of one of the only two original Vietnam M700's they have left in the shop.
I took it because I knew it would stir things up a bit here. Reason being, just about the time we all thought we had seen every configuration of the Vietnam "M40/700" something pops up to let you know that "Spec" should be loosly used when it comes to refering to these rifles....lol

Sooooo, here is another configuration to contradict what we have known as the norm with these beautiful sticks (and upon asking it was told that this rifle is in the same condition now as it had come in).
-Laquored/varnished Stock
-Upside down "Medium" (unlike the low 4 screw "low" rings we are use to seeing) rings.
-Gen 2 Redfield spray painted black

On page 220 of the "One Round War" it speaks of Marines painting their scopes black in order to help reduce corrosion.

 

[Bolt_Trash]

Just reviewed the SWFA web site and they show a SSA with a Badger mount/ring set and the Leupold Commemorative scope (expand the photo.) Does this mean that the mounts they have available will fit the SSA?

http://swfa.com/images/USMC_Scope_Mounted_M40_1500x.jpg

I'm going to send them an email. Badger's web site doesn't show this mount, at all.

Yes, that is what I have mounted on the SSA. What you have pictured there. "Alpha/numeric S/N only" The older Redfield, long and short, bases fit it as well. I have mounted all three at different times. The rear has two holes for the mount. One for short base and one for long base.

 

[eodcam]

Ok, thought I would mix things up a bit for fun...lolol
So one of the times EODCAM and I were hanging out at PWS last year we were snapping some pics of rifles from "The Rolling Rack".
This is a pic of one of the only two original Vietnam M700's they have left in the shop.
I took it because I knew it would stir things up a bit here. Reason being, just about the time we all thought we had seen every configuration of the Vietnam "M40/700" something pops up to let you know that "Spec" should be loosly used when it comes to refering to these rifles....lol

Sooooo, here is another configuration to contradict what we have known as the norm with these beautiful sticks (and upon asking it was told that this rifle is in the same condition now as it had come in).
-Laquored/varnished Stock
-Upside down "Medium" (unlike the low 4 screw "low" rings we are use to seeing) rings.
-Gen 2 Redfield spray painted black

On page 220 of the "One Round War" it speaks of Marines painting their scopes black in order to help reduce corrosion.

Whats Up Brother? Want to stir it up more? That scope was a Redfield Royal, how many times has anyone seen that mentioned?

 

[eodcam]

Just reviewed the SWFA web site and they show a SSA with a Badger mount/ring set and the Leupold Commemorative scope (expand the photo.) Does this mean that the mounts they have available will fit the SSA?

http://swfa.com/images/USMC_Scope_Mounted_M40_1500x.jpg

I'm going to send them an email. Badger's web site doesn't show this mount, at all.

Call Badger tell them what you have and the guys will let you know what you need.

 

[rlm8541]

Baaahaaa.....Thats right EOD...Forgot about that!!!

 

[Bolt_Trash]

Amendment: See Post #998. Ref: USMC Precision Weapons System

I view (think)... the rings, on that one, are just "filler material" on a display piece. The Medium" height Redfield rings, with Torx screws mounting from the bottom, put them in M40A1 territory.

A black spray painted scope is 'jake' - researched and referenced. Interesting, to note, that the scope isn't correct either.

Ok, thought I would mix things up a bit for fun...lolol
So one of the times EODCAM and I were hanging out at PWS last year we were snapping some pics of rifles from "The Rolling Rack".
This is a pic of one of the only two original Vietnam M700's they have left in the shop.
I took it because I knew it would stir things up a bit here. Reason being, just about the time we all thought we had seen every configuration of the Vietnam "M40/700" something pops up to let you know that "Spec" should be loosly used when it comes to refering to these rifles....lol

Sooooo, here is another configuration to contradict what we have known as the norm with these beautiful sticks (and upon asking it was told that this rifle is in the same condition now as it had come in).
-Laquored/varnished Stock
-Upside down "Medium" (unlike the low 4 screw "low" rings we are use to seeing) rings.
-Gen 2 Redfield spray painted black

On page 220 of the "One Round War" it speaks of Marines painting their scopes black in order to help reduce corrosion.

 

[eodcam]

I view (think)... the rings, on that one, are just "filler material" on a display piece. The Medium" height Redfield rings, with Torx screws mounting from the bottom, put them in M40A1 territory.

A black spray painted scope is 'jake' - researched and referenced. Interesting, to note, that the scope isn't correct either.

That is actually the second royal scope I've seen from and on an m40 that was spray painted. The point of the whole thing is just because it was in a book, doesn't make it an absolute. It's probably not referenced anywhere that a coke can and seven up can were different thicknesses and were used to shim 1911 sights. But some old school 12's used them to do so. Trying to research what's spec and what's not, is not an easy task. It really depends on the mood of the 12 who built the weapons, and what tools/parts were in an arms reach at the time. We also have seen A1's with super grade Winchester bottom metal. That's not mentioned in books but they are on the guns. That's what make USMC Precision Weapons awesome, they are built by Marines for Marines and they each have their own character.

 

[Deleted member 10043]

Agreed. There are a lot of examples on the M40A1 build thread of Marine ingenuity.

 

[aur0ra145]

For this threads 1000th post I present to you my commemorative M40. With the help of ya'll, this rifle was possible. Thanks a bunch! Can't wait to get it to the range.

 

[aur0ra145]

And one more...

 

[Deleted member 10043]

 

[Deleted member 10043]

Just reviewed the SWFA web site and they show a SSA with a Badger mount/ring set and the Leupold Commemorative scope (expand the photo.) Does this mean that the mounts they have available will fit the SSA?

http://swfa.com/images/USMC_Scope_Mounted_M40_1500x.jpg

I'm going to send them an email. Badger's web site doesn't show this mount, at all.

Yes, what SWFA has will fit the SSA. It is a short base. The base has flat head screws. The rings have allen screws. BTW, the tolerances on these rings are spot on. All you have to do is seat the scope in the bottom rings like you want it. It is a tight fit so be careful with the windage screws (make sure they are centered). Tightening down the top rings only needs about 15 lbs of torque and they will sit flush with the bottom half of the rings. Once that is done torque down the windage screws being careful to keep it as centered as possible. The windage correction on my first shot @100 yards was like only a couple of inches. That was with a new Leupold Rifleman scope. See attached images for Badger base sold through SWFA on a SSA rifle.

One of the attached images shows the second hole in the rear to accommodate the longer Redfield base.

 

[Bolt_Trash]

Nicely done aurOra145!!

Couple of Q's:

1.) Who did your metal preparation and parkerizing job?

2.) Did you bed your action yet?

3.) When do you plan on starting your M40A1?

Looking forward to your range report!!

And one more...

 

[Bolt_Trash]

Culpeper, Thanks for your clarification on the Badger M40 Mount and the SSA receiver and for the photographs. Typical of anything, by Badger, it's looks meticulous in it's detail and fit. A question remains...

Q's.) Will the Badger mount accept original Redfield 4-screw rings and will they fit correctly? (I don't take anything for granted.)

Yes, what SWFA has will fit the SSA. It is a short base. The base has flat head screws. The rings have allen screws. BTW, the tolerances on these rings are spot on. All you have to do is seat the scope in the bottom rings like you want it. It is a tight fit so be careful with the windage screws (make sure they are centered). Tightening down the top rings only needs about 15 lbs of torque and they will sit flush with the bottom half of the rings. Once that is done torque down the windage screws being careful to keep it as centered as possible. The windage correction on my first shot @100 yards was like only a couple of inches. That was with a new Leupold Rifleman scope. See attached images for Badger base sold through SWFA on a SSA rifle.

One of the attached images shows the second hole in the rear to accommodate the longer Redfield base.

 

[aur0ra145]

Nicely done aurOra145!!

Couple of Q's:

1.) Who did your metal preparation and parkerizing job?

2.) Did you bed your action yet?

3.) When do you plan on starting your M40A1?

Looking forward to your range report!!

1.) I took a quick picture that turned out great. It hasn't been parked yet. Once I shoot this barrel out, I'll get it parkerized.

2.) Haven't bedded it yet. I'm going to take it out this weekend and see how it performs (god willing) and decide from those results.

3.) I've looked at a M40A1; but, the scope is prohibitive to me on cost. Instead, I'm eying a Lee Enfield No4 Mk1T for my next project. Granted, I was just selected by the US Navy to be a Student Navy Flight Officer, so my life will bend to the governments will. Pretty much I deem my rifle building life will take a hiatus until I get a real duty station after training. I've wanted to join the military ever since I was a kid and getting selected for a SNFO slot has been a dream come true. I've read stories about Midway, Leyte Gulf and the submarine campaign in the Pacific since middle school. I'm honored that they would select me to join the ranks of Naval Officers. I've experienced a lot of high emotions in the last two months, from getting selected to having my best friend qualify at 1,000yds at our local range. I cherish the time I've spent with my friends and it's even better that most of it revolves around the pursuit for marksmanship.

When I first got to college; in the first week I was in school I bought my first rifle that was really truly mine (first one I bought and wasn't given to me.) It was a Lee Enfield No4 Mk1* made by Savage. That rifle followed me everywhere and I taught a great deal of people how to shoot with that rifle. I think it's only fair to pursue a No4 Mk1T at this point. Plus MJ1 doesn't help out with discouraging the pursuit for Enfield sniper rifles. This website without a doubt has improved my marksmanship and I have passed that on to to others. KraigWY comes to mind when talking about marksmanship as does a litany of others.

All of you, culpepper, bolt_trash, tokiwartooth, and others have all attributed to my project. I just hope that I can further the cause of marksmanship in my generation from what I have learned from all of you.

Cheers sirs, for you will forever have a lasting impact on my life.

-Aur0ra145

 

[Bolt_Trash]

aur0ra145, Congratulations for your selection to the U.S. Navy Officer Corp and our well wishes attend you. Honestly, I was just kidding about the M40A1, but we all know (deep-down,) that one (1) rifle build is not the end... it's just the beginning and always- always, leads to another. Looking forward to reading the details (it has to have details) of your forthcoming range report.

Note: The only thing I'm known for, on this forum, is asking PITA questions.

1.) I took a quick picture that turned out great. It hasn't been parked yet. Once I shoot this barrel out, I'll get it parkerized.

2.) Haven't bedded it yet. I'm going to take it out this weekend and see how it performs (god willing) and decide from those results.

3.) I've looked at a M40A1; but, the scope is prohibitive to me on cost. Instead, I'm eying a Lee Enfield No4 Mk1T for my next project. Granted, I was just selected by the US Navy to be a Student Navy Flight Officer, so my life will bend to the governments will. Pretty much I deem my rifle building life will take a hiatus until I get a real duty station after training. I've wanted to join the military ever since I was a kid and getting selected for a SNFO slot has been a dream come true. I've read stories about Midway, Leyte Gulf and the submarine campaign in the Pacific since middle school. I'm honored that they would select me to join the ranks of Naval Officers. I've experienced a lot of high emotions in the last two months, from getting selected to having my best friend qualify at 1,000yds at our local range. I cherish the time I've spent with my friends and it's even better that most of it revolves around the pursuit for marksmanship.

When I first got to college; in the first week I was in school I bought my first rifle that was really truly mine (first one I bought and wasn't given to me.) It was a Lee Enfield No4 Mk1* made by Savage. That rifle followed me everywhere and I taught a great deal of people how to shoot with that rifle. I think it's only fair to pursue a No4 Mk1T at this point. Plus MJ1 doesn't help out with discouraging the pursuit for Enfield sniper rifles. This website without a doubt has improved my marksmanship and I have passed that on to to others. KraigWY comes to mind when talking about marksmanship as does a litany of others.

All of you, culpepper, bolt_trash, tokiwartooth, and others have all attributed to my project. I just hope that I can further the cause of marksmanship in my generation from what I have learned from all of you.

Cheers sirs, for you will forever have a lasting impact on my life.

-Aur0ra145

 

[MescaBug]

Whats Up Brother? Want to stir it up more? That scope was a Redfield Royal, how many times has anyone seen that mentioned?

Never?

We learn something new everyday.

1.) I took a quick picture that turned out great. It hasn't been parked yet. Once I shoot this barrel out, I'll get it parkerized.

2.) Haven't bedded it yet. I'm going to take it out this weekend and see how it performs (god willing) and decide from those results.

3.) I've looked at a M40A1; but, the scope is prohibitive to me on cost. Instead, I'm eying a Lee Enfield No4 Mk1T for my next project. Granted, I was just selected by the US Navy to be a Student Navy Flight Officer, so my life will bend to the governments will. Pretty much I deem my rifle building life will take a hiatus until I get a real duty station after training. I've wanted to join the military ever since I was a kid and getting selected for a SNFO slot has been a dream come true. I've read stories about Midway, Leyte Gulf and the submarine campaign in the Pacific since middle school. I'm honored that they would select me to join the ranks of Naval Officers. I've experienced a lot of high emotions in the last two months, from getting selected to having my best friend qualify at 1,000yds at our local range. I cherish the time I've spent with my friends and it's even better that most of it revolves around the pursuit for marksmanship.

When I first got to college; in the first week I was in school I bought my first rifle that was really truly mine (first one I bought and wasn't given to me.) It was a Lee Enfield No4 Mk1* made by Savage. That rifle followed me everywhere and I taught a great deal of people how to shoot with that rifle. I think it's only fair to pursue a No4 Mk1T at this point. Plus MJ1 doesn't help out with discouraging the pursuit for Enfield sniper rifles. This website without a doubt has improved my marksmanship and I have passed that on to to others. KraigWY comes to mind when talking about marksmanship as does a litany of others.

All of you, culpepper, bolt_trash, tokiwartooth, and others have all attributed to my project. I just hope that I can further the cause of marksmanship in my generation from what I have learned from all of you.

Cheers sirs, for you will forever have a lasting impact on my life.

-Aur0ra145

Congrats on your build!!

 

[rlm8541]

Well put brother (eodcam) ...Im not sure why I subject myself to this so many time...LMAO. I would "not" have been so tactful. lolololol
It was on a roller rack that sits in a locked vault in the back of a Marine Corp Armory. Not so much of a "display" rifle.
I'll shut up now...lol

 

[Bolt_Trash]

The SWFA Badger Mount Response...

Badger made the mount, but SWFA is the retailer and I think a retailer should know what they're offering. So... the SWFA email response:

Mr. Bolt_Trash-

Thank you for your patronage for SWFA.

From what I understand. Current production Remington Model 700’s are from May 14th 2006 to present day.

Best Regards,

Skylar McMahon

5840 E. US Hwy 287
Midlothian, TX 76065

O: 972.617.7056 Ext. 8334
F: 972.617.1647
[email protected]

Just reviewed the SWFA web site and they show a SSA with a Badger mount/ring set and the Leupold Commemorative scope (expand the photo.) Does this mean that the mounts they have available will fit the SSA?

http://swfa.com/images/USMC_Scope_Mounted_M40_1500x.jpg

I'm going to send them an email. Badger's web site doesn't show this mount, at all.

Yes, that is what I have mounted on the SSA. What you have pictured there. "Alpha/numeric S/N only" The older Redfield, long and short, bases fit it as well. I have mounted all three at different times. The rear has two holes for the mount. One for short base and one for long base.

 

[Deleted member 10043]

What does this have to do with the SSA rifle?

 

[Bolt_Trash]

What does this have to do with the SSA rifle?

Ahhhhhh, because it fits?

Is there anything to the contrary that you know of and would care to present?

Still curious if an original Redfield 4 screw ring set will fit the Badger M40 mount. Can you speak to and/or offer any information on that question?
____________________________________________________________________________________________

I'm not (exactly) sure why Badger would make the usage declaration, that they did, on these mounts, especially in view of the fact that you've apparently used the early "Patent Date" Redfield mounts (LA/721 and SA/722) and the Badger mount, on your 2006 LTD edition SSA, without issue. The fact is and remains, that they did.

I have a personal interest in the more 'obscure' details attaching to the subject Badger mount (pls. see Q. re: orig. rings) inasmuch as I have a virgin SSA action, for my build, and am considering purchasing one.

 

[Deleted member 10043]

What are you doing? We've established it fits the SSA but the SSA has nothing to do with "current production" Remington Model 700s Mr. McMahon is referring to so your quotations are misleading. As for the ring srews? I fail to understand why it is even relevant. I'm not going to take out a mounted screw to see if a fifty year old Redfield screw will work in its place. The information would be useless. Nobody is going to interchange Redfield screws on the Badger rings and vice versa.

 

[usmchog1965]

Nice rifle! And good work on the stock

I cant agree with the Silver Hill being the 'best' profile out there. Everyone that got one of these stocks had to put hours and hours of work on it. I dont consider this as being 'the best'. I personally got one last year, and it was awful. Far from being a M40 clone stock. No saying its not a good product, but its not the best. Most people were lucky because they have basic woodworking skills. If looking a 100% drop-in stock, dont get a Silver Hill. It wont fit, period. And its not finished. You have to buy some oil, supplies and whatnot to actually have a stock that ressembles a M40.

The Numrich stock is the closest. It is a perfect fit since it is actually a Remington product. That stock was used for the mid-80's police rifle. I dont think police departments had woodworkers fitting stocks to barreled action.

If lucky, one can find a plain ADL stock on eBay. No checkering, metal buttplate, heavy barrel channel (can be opened up if not).

Like I previously mentioned, Rob with Silverhill is aware and has corrected the problem. I just received my replacement stock and had the barreled action in place in less than a half hour. Now just need to send the barreled action off to get it Cerakote'd.

 

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I'm pretty sure, by this time, that we all know that the SSA is a 40X and, obviously, has features that "_ production" Remington Model 700's don't have. I don't see any basis for debate, on those points and frankly I'm making no effort to do that.

SWFA has, in this email, applied a date and year certain to M700 receivers that the mount will fit. Absent the 40X features of the SSA Commemorative, the SSA appears to fall into that period of production. So, the term "current production" reasonably extends, by 'direct application' or, by 'linear extension.' True, they didn't speak to the SSA, directly and their answer might even be considered overly-broad, but it's entirely adequate. The fact is, I didn't ask them about the SSA, at all, just production years. My degree of knowledge on the SSA is, by my own admission, indeed limited, but isn't the receiver on the SSA a composite of the USMC M40 (40X) features superimposed over a 2006 Remington Model 700 receiver. I welcome your correction, if I'm in error.

Screws? I'm befuddled. If I am certain of anything, it would be that a 6-48, is a 6-48, is a 6-48, regardless of the year it was tapped. Wait a minute - I see my error now- I should know better than to refer to a Redfield "4 screw" scope ring set, as simply a Redfield 4 screw ring set. I treated them as interchangeable. My fault entirely.
That aside, I'd still like to know if they (an 'original' Redfield 4 screw scope ring set) will fit the Badger 'reproduction' 40X mount.

As you've seen before, I have no problem admitting to error and/or amending a post to reflect an error in content.

What are you doing? We've established it fits the SSA but the SSA has nothing to do with "current production" Remington Model 700s Mr. McMahon is referring to so your quotations are misleading. As for the ring srews? I fail to understand why it is even relevant. I'm not going to take out a mounted screw to see if a fifty year old Redfield screw will work in its place. The information would be useless. Nobody is going to interchange Redfield screws on the Badger rings and vice versa.