Correct. Accurate history, especially when Europe is concerned, will greatly simplify modern problems.
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The war in Ukraine and Donbas
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Correct. Accurate history, especially when Europe is concerned, will greatly simplify modern problems.
To quote you numbers whose sources you'll deny (exercise in futility) who gives a fuck what you think or think you know. You can stuff your facts up your ass just like much of the history thought to you by your nazi friends you imported after WWII. You want to believe you saved the world from nazis believe it , i could not care less, your own arrogance and hubris is your undoing as you can clearly see if you watch your domestic channels. As to my analogy to dick measuring contest its perfect in light of modern would be general draft in US armed forces. I'm pretty sure US army from WWII or Korea would be (was) very different to what US army would field today in any significant number.
As to us eastern fuckers, sciavi or slaves as you call us we have our own problems especially with iq challenged 5th column that craves west while due to the lack of CPU power cannot comprehend that fairy tales of the West ended somewhere in dec.1913 and it went straight to the gutter.
Still hope you elect Trump and he survives but my optimism from summer and before turned to pessimism as even after TWO attempts on his life from your entire "conservative gung ho Constitution über alles wild west redneck don't fuck with me" community nothing but crickets. Not even a show trial for some scapegoat from SS let alone real protests and demanding justice and investigation as clearly Al Capone of today is no longer in Chicago but in Washington DC , even faggot Antifa can stage a better chimpout/mostly peaceful protest than your lot.
As to us eastern fuckers, sciavi or slaves as you call us we have our own problems especially with iq challenged 5th column that craves west while due to the lack of CPU power cannot comprehend that fairy tales of the West ended somewhere in dec.1913 and it went straight to the gutter.
Still hope you elect Trump and he survives but my optimism from summer and before turned to pessimism as even after TWO attempts on his life from your entire "conservative gung ho Constitution über alles wild west redneck don't fuck with me" community nothing but crickets. Not even a show trial for some scapegoat from SS let alone real protests and demanding justice and investigation as clearly Al Capone of today is no longer in Chicago but in Washington DC , even faggot Antifa can stage a better chimpout/mostly peaceful protest than your lot.
Nothing says Democrat like -
"You can stuff your facts up your ass"; don't quit your day job at ABC
Facts, Facts, we don't need no stink'n facts. When asked about truth and facts... we hear ......
"born from middle class family"; cause her great grand daddy had to give up all his slaves
They're pandas.. don't need facts
to keep thread on track
Picture in Russia
Built to withstand Nuclear Explosion.. not drones. (I guess you have to specify; WHERE the nuclear explosion takes place.)
"You can stuff your facts up your ass"; don't quit your day job at ABC
Facts, Facts, we don't need no stink'n facts. When asked about truth and facts... we hear ......
"born from middle class family"; cause her great grand daddy had to give up all his slaves
They're pandas.. don't need facts
to keep thread on track
Picture in Russia
Built to withstand Nuclear Explosion.. not drones. (I guess you have to specify; WHERE the nuclear explosion takes place.)
Arms depot in Russia's Tver Oblast built to withstand nuclear explosion ^^^
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According to open source maps Ukraines Kursk thing looks pretty well stalled out.
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Facts for religious zealots are exercise in futility. Want short version?
Me: numbers bla bal
Him: those are bullshit sources
Me: no they are relevant from and due to bla bla credible
Him: bullshit
Me: nope
….
As said believe whatever you want to believe just like vaxxers still not accepting FACTS about excess mortality and amount of people needlessly killed by general acceptance of lies from experts and doctors. Wonder how fun it will be when some of the pain your leaders have caused comes back to bite you as it sure wont bite them first.
Me: numbers bla bal
Him: those are bullshit sources
Me: no they are relevant from and due to bla bla credible
Him: bullshit
Me: nope
….
As said believe whatever you want to believe just like vaxxers still not accepting FACTS about excess mortality and amount of people needlessly killed by general acceptance of lies from experts and doctors. Wonder how fun it will be when some of the pain your leaders have caused comes back to bite you as it sure wont bite them first.
The pro-Ukraine war crowd is incredibly stupid. The majority of people that have been caught up in the cartoonishly simple binary narrative of this being a war of "good vs evil" are of low intellect.
I'm convinced that the largest collection of idiots and vapid groupthink on the internet is NAFO. I would not be surprised to find out that the mean intelligence of that group is sub 90 IQ.
Edit: deleted the quoted portion as after re-reading I'm unsure its relevant to their post. However, its relevant to this thread and those cheerleading on this incredibly idiotic proxy war.
I'm convinced that the largest collection of idiots and vapid groupthink on the internet is NAFO. I would not be surprised to find out that the mean intelligence of that group is sub 90 IQ.
Edit: deleted the quoted portion as after re-reading I'm unsure its relevant to their post. However, its relevant to this thread and those cheerleading on this incredibly idiotic proxy war.
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I'm not sure why you are so angry. I generally love Slavic people. They are great.
I merely pointed out that without Lend Lease the USSR wouldn't have won the war.
Please don't become unhinged. Unless my comments about being paid by Moscow hit a bit too close to home.
doubtful they would have lost more than likely they would have settled the issue diplomatically
Also keep in mind the US and Britain’s Bombing campaign…. Day and night.
It may have happened but I don’t recall every hearing or reading about Soviet strategic bombers going to Germany in 300 to 1000 bomber formations and destroying entire cities…
Like they partitioned Poland and the Baltics diplomatically?
Look up casualties by country during WW2 and judge who was doing the hard fighting and dying , strategic bombing never lived up to the promises it would deliver in the ETO or the PTO . It was another "hey look we are helping" message sent to the russians and chinese to keep them in the war .
I can’t help the soviets used poor strategies and slaughtered their own soldiers whole sale.
I’m not saying the soviets didn’t do their part, they damn sure did.
During WW2, Ukrainian Nazis Committed Genocide Against 100K Poles, But Zelensky Refuses To Address the Issue - so Now Poland Plans to Block Their Entry in the EU Until He Does | The Gateway Pundit | by Paul Serran
Unlike the Mainstream media, that is maintaining a veil of silence over this, The Gateway Pundit is reporting on the increased tensions in the bilateral relations between Ukraine and its neighbor and top backer Poland.
www.thegatewaypundit.com
I didn't know it was built to withstand a nuc. That's some funny shit rite there!
Typical failed Russian shit!
Probably could have if built as designed, but then everyone takes their cut & its in effective crap. Plus the support folks probably took all of the metal hardware they could for scrap. Using crap Russian trucks & shit...
Heck, maybe sold the blast doors for the Oligarchs dachas.
I don't think he cares........ Ha ha ha ha. Hahahaha hahahaha (picture a laugh,but chanted like an Indian)
Last thing we need is a China-Russia lend-lease.
And by we I mean Ukrainian babes. Hot babes.
And by we I mean Ukrainian babes. Hot babes.
Looks like open air storage site was hit , but yes for sake of clicks and likes its built to withstand nuclear Explosion and similar hyperboles thrown around.
Open air storage is literally designed to blow up with minimal sympathetic exsplosions , no chain reaction ,that is why its spread out and there are berms around each unit, It is definetly not nuclear blast proof , but you typically need to hit each unit to blow it up , so here were many drones involved not one or two setting up a chain reaction
So even if this storage has 10-15.000 tons of ammunition, its not all gone , expensive shit that is in the bunkers is definitely unaffected.
Part with bunker type storage remains as it was (circled red) , open air ? will see after smoke clears
Blown so far are the crosed over units , might be more , but that is what is seen now
Listed just mayor ammo depos
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"
Andrius Kubilius, a former Lithuanian prime minister and the EU’s first defense commissioner, has said Europe must be ready to fight Russia within 6-8 years.
“Defense ministers and NATO generals agree that Vladimir Putin could be ready for confrontation with NATO and the EU in 6-8 years,” Kubilius told Reuters.
“If we take these assessments seriously, then that is the time for us to properly prepare, and it is a short one. This means we have to take quick decisions, and ambitious decisions,” he added.
NATO has been preparing for a future war with Russia despite the risk of the conflict quickly turning nuclear. The EU has little impact on military policy since individual EU members are responsible for their own defense, but the appointment of Kubilius shows the bloc is looking to increase its involvement in war planning."
Baltic poodles barking from behind the fence ,as long as they can count on US troops.
NATO europe is mostly a joke and Ukraine has by leaps and bounds ''Europe's'' largest and strongest military, Most EU member armies combined do not come close to Ukraine. So every time you hear NATO must ready for war with Russia , they really mean US troops with some support from NATO
Make Haste , hold my wurst !!We have some autobahn to fix - to be fair no speed limit on autobahn has been effectively limited by roadworks for decades now.
Germany would need up to 100 years at current rearmament pace to deter Russia, report says
Note stock listed are 2021 , stocks in 2024 are even smaller as gear went to ukraine and was not replaced ,
Not much better over the chanell,not to mention land forces are still being cut and are already smaller than USMC , most hawkish are the ones with least capacity of their own.
Note two aircraft carriers they have have no aircraft ,and one is broken all the time
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Ukraine blew up an open air, nuclear bomb resistant storage facility. Force Fields? An invisible dome? Since you two payasos are talking about "facts".
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Well going by those photos i guess its all over for russia now surely they will surrender lmao
Yea, between this, the half dozen F16s and the Abrams and Leopards, I figure Zelensky's U-Haul should be rolling up to the Kremlin any day now to start unpacking his shit into Putin's old office.
Maybe he'll keep Putin's old lady on as a maid or something.
Maybe he'll keep Putin's old lady on as a maid or something.
i bet the uke signs a peace deal in 25 not as good as the one they could have signed in 24
Curious... why wouldn't Russia spread out that ammo supply a little bit while in an active war... and why apparently shitty/no air defenses?
Again - what NATO force? When all the NATO countries spend their required annual defense budget then maybe they are serious. This is all about money - money to the defense complex and money laundered to politicians.
It is spread out that is why there is no impact on course of the war with one or two blowing up every then and so, wast distances and thousands of potential targets no airdefense can cover , Its one thing to do AD in israel that is tiny ,and quite another in Ukraine or Russia. Russian AD is one of most built up of any country, most western countries have no AD at all or extremely spotty one with very few systems.
Kadyrov and the TikTok Brigade (Not the IDF , the other one) braged ,Musk turned cybertruck into expensive scrap by remotely shuting it down 
*on the other hand it just shows that unless you want to rely on your social score for mobility stay away from Tesla
*on the other hand it just shows that unless you want to rely on your social score for mobility stay away from Tesla
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Sun Tzu ''When you are broke ,go for an ATM in DC''
"The draft law "On the state budget-2025" provides for increasing the wage fund: the Verkhovna Rada (apparatus) - by 26.2 percent, the office of the president - by 11.2 percent, the cabinet of ministers - by 19.7 percent, the National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine (NABU) - by 28.2 percent, the prosecutor's office - by 25.8 percent, the specialized anti-corruption prosecutor's office - by 71.2 percent, the economic security bureau - by 75 percent... the courts - by 9.3 percent, the tax service - by 39.3 percent, customs - by 15.4 percent," Yuzhanina said
"The draft law "On the state budget-2025" provides for increasing the wage fund: the Verkhovna Rada (apparatus) - by 26.2 percent, the office of the president - by 11.2 percent, the cabinet of ministers - by 19.7 percent, the National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine (NABU) - by 28.2 percent, the prosecutor's office - by 25.8 percent, the specialized anti-corruption prosecutor's office - by 71.2 percent, the economic security bureau - by 75 percent... the courts - by 9.3 percent, the tax service - by 39.3 percent, customs - by 15.4 percent," Yuzhanina said
I guess that question is answered:
From the following article:
Ukraine’s lost F-16: Debris and a deadly mission - Breaking Defense
Some details of the F-16 downing have come out, and sources have helped fill in some gaps for Breaking Defense, including around the theory that the loss was the result of shrapnel that hit the plane.
breakingdefense.com
"Complicating this coordination, multiple sources said, is the fact that neither the PSU fighters nor the air defense units on the ground are using IFF in these engagements. In the beginning of the war, confusion about IFF with both the Russian and Ukraine sides operating some of the same aircraft presented concerns about mistaking one side’s aircraft for another. This practice of not utilizing IFF has been continued with the F-16s now in service. (The MoD and PSU did not return requests for comment on the use of IFF by press time.)"
So just a full on shit show of systemic incompetence on a massive scale. Typical.I guess that question is answered:
From the following article:
Ukraine’s lost F-16: Debris and a deadly mission - Breaking Defense
Some details of the F-16 downing have come out, and sources have helped fill in some gaps for Breaking Defense, including around the theory that the loss was the result of shrapnel that hit the plane.
"Complicating this coordination, multiple sources said, is the fact that neither the PSU fighters nor the air defense units on the ground are using IFF in these engagements. In the beginning of the war, confusion about IFF with both the Russian and Ukraine sides operating some of the same aircraft presented concerns about mistaking one side’s aircraft for another. This practice of not utilizing IFF has been continued with the F-16s now in service. (The MoD and PSU did not return requests for comment on the use of IFF by press time.)"
I imagine the whole zoopark of AD systems working with minimally trained crews , they bet anything that flies is Russian ,and when they do a strike AD in sectors to be used is notified and stands down.
Meanwhile NAFO twiter space is melting down after they realized they have been scammed, well would be a miracle if with all the gullible dupes financing any go-fund me with ukraine flag ,shit load of scammers would not be at it .Georgian legion 4mio $ is just small potatoes
Imagine the brain fart expecting scammers to come forward and do the right thing
Remember all these NAFO idiots paid for Fella or NAFO 'status'
And then there such issues resulting in some more Fella misery
Meanwhile NAFO twiter space is melting down after they realized they have been scammed, well would be a miracle if with all the gullible dupes financing any go-fund me with ukraine flag ,shit load of scammers would not be at it .Georgian legion 4mio $ is just small potatoes
Imagine the brain fart expecting scammers to come forward and do the right thing
Remember all these NAFO idiots paid for Fella or NAFO 'status'
And then there such issues resulting in some more Fella misery
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whenever these types of go fund me ads show up on facebook i ask if there is a site to donate to russia jus to bust balls
Hey guys.
Is it just me or is 7mm WSSM the best cartridge in 190gr ATIPs pound for pound. Grain for grain.
Probably 2800 FPS in a 26 inch match Medium profile Model 70 with a Walnut Stock and Bergara barrel. 0.25 MOA.
Is it just me or is 7mm WSSM the best cartridge in 190gr ATIPs pound for pound. Grain for grain.
Probably 2800 FPS in a 26 inch match Medium profile Model 70 with a Walnut Stock and Bergara barrel. 0.25 MOA.
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gonna stick with my old fudd gun 300 win mag ,i forget the numbers but it makes things really deader plus the chicks really dig big man guns at the range
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