yea we and the russ have both done the deed of supplying and supporting terrorists (or freedom fighters)?
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SubscribeRussia should up the game given how weak the West isBlack market weapons vs intentionally supplying terrorist. The main difference would be Russia's move depending on the source.
Fair. That said, I think this is probably a 'P800 Oniks for the Houthis' kind of event rather than an 'end of the world' kind of event.true,but what we call it doesn't matter. it's what putin and his advisors think that matters. i have a mild fear of becoming a hiroshima citizen. those worries are not looking to recede.
i doubt very much that anyone was targeting beach goers...but schiff happens...however,there is a point to be made here. for sure the US missile was sent via US sat info. civ hit a mistake or not? for sure sent by nato or US personel. ukes don't have the skills. the question is how many uke civ hits have been sent by russians previously? quite a few,so i don't think putin can have it 1 way. it is a dangerous escalation. deliberate civ strikes escalating by both sides is very dangerous. ukes will lose that one. thus US,NATO,NWO might try and raise the stakes with more and bigger civ hits in russia. they are that crazy and seem to want a major escalation. for what reason i have no clue. i just wish putin would finish this off. have heard he won't do it faster to avoid casualties. that would be a defeat for nato and our neocon cartel which would be an uptick on our freedom,safety and economy here. need to dump europe and nato and esp the UN.
i doubt very much that anyone was targeting beach goers...but schiff happens...
That report is not even close on dead & wounded. I hope the Fucks who allowed & promoted this, are the first to pay up.scary escalation?
Russia issues chilling threat and summons US ambassador over fatal Crimea attack
Russia say that six people including two children died after being hit by falling debris from Ukrainian missiles that were shot down over a coastal area in Sevastopol, a port city in Russia-annexed Crimeawww.mirror.co.uk
i doubt very much that anyone was targeting beach goers...but schiff happens...
that makes some sense since i believe the russians tried to intercept them."pictures published online suggest that a Russian Tor-M2 system missile, not an ATACMS as initially thought, landed in Crimea."
Especially when those particular dishes have been defunct some 30+yearsI'm not sure cluster munitions that broke up over the beach are meant for big assed radar dishes.
TOR is small missile you wouldn't have 160+ wounded. with ATACMs hitting on the beach much of the clusters might have landed in the Waterthat makes some sense since i believe the russians tried to intercept them.
Who knows what is and what isn't propaganda in all of this. But I saw pictures on twitter yesterday of egg shaped bomblets with blue stars painted all over them found in a nearby field that were presented as unexploded cluster munition bomblets."pictures published online suggest that a Russian Tor-M2 system missile, not an ATACMS as initially thought, landed in Crimea."
again, don't know the story...or what actually happened...
TOR is small missile you wouldn't have 160+ wounded. with ATACMs hitting on the beach much of the clusters might have landed in the Water
Evac to hospitals in Moscow
scary escalation?
Russia issues chilling threat and summons US ambassador over fatal Crimea attack
Russia say that six people including two children died after being hit by falling debris from Ukrainian missiles that were shot down over a coastal area in Sevastopol, a port city in Russia-annexed Crimeawww.mirror.co.uk
I thought cluster bombs were a "war crime" according to the UN and those on the "moral high ground"?
"pictures published online suggest that a Russian Tor-M2 system missile, not an ATACMS as initially thought, landed in Crimea."
No, cluster bombs are only really bad and a war crime when the other side does it.
You are supposed to turn a blind eye when the so-called "good guys" use them.
Russia is accused of using them both in Ukraine and in Syria.. or at least there are videos that indicate this.
Again, he/said she/said with the propaganda thing.
Putin has had/shown way more restraint to this point than I would have ever believed. I just can't see that trait holding much longer, and the NWO/OWO getting canned sunshine released as they want. What does surprise me is why active hunting of same has not started, or reports of accidental deaths of same, have not been front page news as of yet. Z boy could be called a start, but a few other names I can think of would be more fruitful.UKRAINE DARKNESS: Kiev Fires ATACMS With Cluster Munitions at Crimean Beachgoers, as Russia Rips Its Power Infrastructure - Citizens Receiving Just 8 Daily Hours of Energy | The Gateway Pundit | by Paul Serran
The US-made long-range ATACMS missiles supplied by the Joe Biden Administration from hell to Kiev may not be the game changer they expected, but it sure turned the Day of the Holy Trinity holiday into a bloody tragedy on a Crimean beach.www.thegatewaypundit.com
Putin has had/shown way more restraint to this point than I would have ever believed. I just can't see that trait holding much longer, and the NWO/OWO getting canned sunshine released as they want. What does surprise me is why active hunting of same has not started, or reports of accidental deaths of same, have not been front page news as of yet. Z boy could be called a start, but a few other names I can think of would be more fruitful.
Putin has had/shown way more restraint to this point than I would have ever believed. I just can't see that trait holding much longer, and the NWO/OWO getting canned sunshine released as they want. What does surprise me is why active hunting of same has not started, or reports of accidental deaths of same, have not been front page news as of yet. Z boy could be called a start, but a few other names I can think of would be more fruitful.
I've known of less stopping an agenda cold, especially when family's of agenda drivers are the prime targets.I don't believe the NWO's move to align the superpowers is likely dependent on removing any one political figurehead. At least not as a lynch pin to effect it.
I thought everyone knew this years and years ago! US doing what it do best.Syria is a whole story in itself. It looks like the Assad gas attack was likely a false flag perpetrated by western backed militias in order to give the West a pretext to get involved.
War crimes are for losers.I thought cluster bombs were a "war crime" according to the UN and those on the "moral high ground"?
Per memory, Russia only started using cluster munitions (War footage as evidence) once they had been supplied by the US and Ukraine employed them. (and yes one of the first uses of cluster munitions was on the city of Donetsk, because Ukraine just can't not target civilians.)From what I understand, Russia has used it in Ukraine and there was a lot of sqawking from the West in the media about how bad that is (and yeah, cluster bombs are nasty).
We also know Ukraine has also used clusterbombs inside their own country - in which 70+% of the munitions won't explode and will likely be found by future generations kids to be harmed by. However, when Ukraine uses them, its crickets.
Bible says they all wind up batting for the same team for a short time. In the interim some tactical nukes could come into play. The word "ruinous heap" is certainly conveyed. That said, God reserves burning this planet to a crisp all to Himself.
I don't believe the NWO's move to align the superpowers is likely dependent on removing any one political figurehead. At least not as a lynch pin to effect it. Russian people and most of the world want nothing to do with the sissified LBTQXYZ USofA.. They see it as corrupt, evil, and too far down the rabbit hole I'm sure..
Maybe there really is something to the Ronald ray-gun space alien to align the Earth theory. Predictive programming with space rock threats to life on Earth has been heavy as well.
I Pray and would pay too get to partake of that one, just for the opportunity to meet armed turks again.The battle of Ezekiel 38 and 39/Daniel 9 aka the battle of Gog and Magog is when you find Iran, Russia, and Turkey
Finding debris from the interceptor doesn't seem very strange, as that ATCMS was intercepted."pictures published online suggest that a Russian Tor-M2 system missile, not an ATACMS as initially thought, landed in Crimea."
Russia's been using some cluster munitions at least for a year in Ukrain, and they've been open about it.Russia is accused of using them both in Ukraine and in Syria.. or at least there are videos that indicate this.
Again, he/said she/said with the propaganda thing.
Make Istanbul Constantinople againI Pray and would pay too get to partake of that one, just for the opportunity to meet armed turks again.
Even though I was mind fucked by the US gov from birth, to hate the Russians. The day that all changed spoke volumes about US brain washing.
The truks, are a different story, they were supposed to be our friends, (again brain washing) I seen the true side of those fucks in 1965, and many times there after. Too this day I have a burning hatred of those backstabbing bushwhackers. If that whole country were to turn to glass, I'd have a smile from ear to ear for years.
Russia's been using some cluster munitions at least for a year in Ukrain, and they've been open about it.
All sides use cluster munitions, they are only a warcrime when it suits whatever agenda is pushed.
Yeah, they used a bunch of those butterfly mines in Donetsk city centre.I think it's also fair to point out that neither USA, Russia, or Ukraine is party to the international treaty that bans the use of cluster munitions.
While I find them pretty grotesque weapons, I do find it particularly gross that Ukraine is willing to drop them in their own country. If you read up statistics on these weapons, you'll know many of the ordinance go unexploded for years, and when found, it's almost always by children. Great way to leave nasty surprises all over your country for future generations of kids to find.
I wouldn't be surprised if Ukraine was using depleted uranium all over their own country.
i doubt many if any nk troops have real combat experience, so perhaps this could be motivation for their military leadership as well.Interesting development but I doubt NK will send ground troops to Ukraine, but these are strange times so who knows.
North Korean troops could join Russia’s war action against Ukraine
The chilling prospect of North Korean troops joining the Russian special military operation in Ukraine has risen tremendously following North Korean Supreme Leader Kim Jong Un’s signing of a mutual defense pact with Russian President Vladimir Putin. Putin and Kim signed the treaty during the...wwiii.news
Did a S&P near the Taedong River, (Nampo,NK) long ago, to us they were but fluff. Their Propaganda was first rate, Intel gathering why behind the curve, but they no problem running people into bullets, no matter the bullet count.yea. could. no korea has had no combat experience since like 1954. some SF stuff but not a lot of that. their generals all have a huge load of fruit salad however.