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[Cody S]

I was using my CDG fixed bolt handle again today, it's just flat amazing. feels excellent, looks pretty cool, does everything I could ask. I can't wait to put in the 70lb spring to see how much that lightens the bolt lift and enjoy tinkering. thanks for making sure spare/replacement parts are cheap/available and shipping is swift.
thanks @karagias and ARC group!

 

[Boatninja]

Action is DLC, bolt is nitride, per the website.

Debating if I want to order another one to stick in the safe before the price increase just in case I get an urge to build another rifle...

I have a CDG long and short in the safe, like money in the bank, no it's better than money in the bank!

 

[TheOE800]

Anybody running their CDG with M5 bottom metal? Want to get some pics of where your case head presentation is vis-a-vis the bottom lug.

I’ve got mine assembled by hand outside the stock as I wait for it to arrive, but I noticed the case head presents notably lower in this MDT M5 bottom metal than it does in my ACC Elite. I don’t have any other M5 DBM on hand to compare. This isn’t magazine catch related, I checked that already.

 

[Cody S]

Anybody running their CDG with M5 bottom metal? Want to get some pics of where your case head presentation is vis-a-vis the bottom lug.

I’ve got mine assembled by hand outside the stock as I wait for it to arrive, but I noticed the case head presents notably lower in this MDT M5 bottom metal than it does in my ACC Elite. I don’t have any other M5 DBM on hand to compare. This isn’t magazine catch related, I checked that already.

this is a hawkins

 

[Firestarter123]

I got the CDG in that I grabbed from SAC when the impending price increase was announced and it is indeed a very nice action.

I'm happy to report that the action I got appears to be the latest revision with the non-pointed flush trigger pins and the points on the hanger itself. I wasn't sure if that'd be the case or not.

Now the wait for the one that I ordered direct from ARC won't be so painful

I'm going to grab a Xylo and a Mod 22 trigger at some point for my 223Rem build. The mag catch for AICS mags and the CDG are still a couple months out according to ARC but I'm in no rush.

I do also like the fluting as it's only about 1/3 of the circumference of the bolt.

My direct from ARC action is a smooth bolt with a round knob so we'll see how I like it compared to the standard knob that this one came with. I'd like to think that I'd sell the one I like the least since I don't really need 2 actions, however, I'm kind of doubting that'll happen

Also, a big thumbs up to them including a parts diagram with complete parts list (including part #'s) with the action...I'm looking at you AI

 

[Cody S]

I only have like 60 or 70 rounds on my action so all I can say is it feels really really nice and functions exactly how I'd hoped. I have the most recent revision too I believe as it's only a month old.
this action is worth every penny of 1200$.

 

[Cody S]

so I just installed the 70lb spring to have some fun and now the bolt won't close all the way.
do I need to time the trigger again?
pic shows as far down as the bolt will go.
going to try timing the trigger and see if that does it.
ETA upon closer inspection I even see in this picture I had the handle backwards

 

[Hennig]

Trigger timing shouldn’t be affecting by the striker spring? Sure it’s all reassembled properly?

 

[Cody S]

nope, not the triggers fault.
no I'm not sure it's assembled right lmfao, matter of fact I think that's the issue.

 

[Hennig]

Haha well pull it down at start again - second times a charm.

 

[ChrisAU]

Are you guys talking about the striker springs on ARC’s website? What comes standard and what is the benefit to changing it in which direction?

 

[Kiba]

so I just installed the 70lb spring to have some fun and now the bolt won't close all the way.
do I need to time the trigger again?
pic shows as far down as the bolt will go.
going to try timing the trigger and see if that does it.

Make sure the cocking piece is installed in the correct direction. Also make sure you didn't install the bolt head 180 degrees off. Those are my first 2 guesses...

 

[Cody S]

Are you guys talking about the striker springs on ARC’s website? What comes standard and what is the benefit to changing it in which direction?

80 comes standard. I bought the 70, as it will reduce the bolt lift. mainly I like to tinker and they were available on the website so why not. you could buy the 100lb spring if you want to know what an AI feels like.
this whole not going into battery thing is something I've somehow screwed up.
bolt head is correct orientation. going to check the cocking piece tomorrow, thanks for your ideas guys I appreciate that.

 

[ChrisAU]

80 comes standard. I bought the 70, as it will reduce the bolt lift. mainly I like to tinker and they were available on the website so why not.
this whole not going into battery thing is something I've somehow screwed up.
bolt head is correct orientation. going to check the cooking piece tomorrow, thanks for your ideas guys I appreciate that.

This is on the 80N spring page, so I’m not sure?

 

[Cody S]

my understanding from ARC via the phone is that 70 was standard when it was new then they went to 80 for reliability when dirty or some such reason(I forgot what he actually said)
my action is the latest iteration and shipped with an 80 spring. the 70 is about 1/8th inch shorter, give or take and definitely goes together easier.
if you aren't sure just call and aggravate them, they're cool people.

 

[Cody S]

nightmares woke me up, taunting me how stupid I am. I had the handle in backwards.
got it back together. it did lighten bolt lift a lot.

 

[AllenOne1]

Can you tell which spring you have without taking it apart and measuring it? Are they color coded or something? (I don't remember seeing any color on mine but I wasn't looking for it either)

Mine was one of the original batch that shipped so I assume it has the 70# spring, but it's just an assumption at this point. Not going to change it one way or another as it has worked perfectly and the bolt lift is fantastic.

 

[lash]

Can you tell which spring you have without taking it apart and measuring it? Are they color coded or something? (I don't remember seeing any color on mine but I wasn't looking for it either)

Mine was one of the original batch that shipped so I assume it has the 70# spring, but it's just an assumption at this point. Not going to change it one way or another as it has worked perfectly and the bolt lift is fantastic.

Same here.

 

[lash]

nightmares woke me up, taunting me how stupid I am. I had the handle in backwards.
got it back together. it did lighten bolt lift a lot.

Ouch! I hate when that happens!

Glad that you figured it out.

 

[giumau1]

Can you tell which spring you have without taking it apart and measuring it? Are they color coded or something? (I don't remember seeing any color on mine but I wasn't looking for it either)

Mine was one of the original batch that shipped so I assume it has the 70# spring, but it's just an assumption at this point. Not going to change it one way or another as it has worked perfectly and the bolt lift is fantastic.

No color codes on mine either the original or the replacement. Mine is a June 23 build, and pretty sure is a 70N, tried the 80N but went back to the 70N, my action has around 2k rounds and is sooo smooth...once u try that you 'll never come back...

 

[Firestarter123]

Does anyone know how wide the forend of the Xylo chassis is?

I'm playing with making some covers that mount to the ARCA rail but I don't have the chassis yet.

 

[AllenOne1]

Does anyone know how wide the forend of the Xylo chassis is?

I'm playing with making some covers that mount to the ARCA rail but I don't have the chassis yet.

1.900"

 

[Firestarter123]

1.900"

Thanks!

I was pretty close at guessing 2” then.

 

[Firestarter123]

I doubt anyone will care but I'm curious to try this out on a Xylo once I get one. I actually don't have anything Arca to try it on so I'm just going off of the RRS Arca specs.

I'm planning on getting an Arca adapter for my Atlas bipod and putting it up at the front and then putting these on the rest of the rail as I just shoot at the range so I don't need to be moving the bipod all over the place on the rail.

 

[lash]

I doubt anyone will care but I'm curious to try this out on a Xylo once I get one. I actually don't have anything Arca to try it on so I'm just going off of the RRS Arca specs.

I'm planning on getting an Arca adapter for my Atlas bipod and putting it up at the front and then putting these on the rest of the rail as I just shoot at the range so I don't need to be moving the bipod all over the place on the rail.

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Printed?

 

[Firestarter123]

Printed?

Yeah I just printed it on my Bambulab X1C.

I'm still learning Fusion as I'm not a CAD designer so it's a bit of a chore for me to design things but it's fun to experiment.

I did find a small Arca rail on Thingiverse that I printed as well and it's a perfect fit so that's nice to see.

I could still use the measurement for the height of the sides of the Xylo (excluding the Arca rail) so that I can get that correct. I started with 1.5" as a guess but an actual number would be nice.

If anyone wants the file once I get it done I'll put it up on Thingiverse.

I have 2 CDG's (1 from SAC here now and 1 from ARC direct that I'm waiting on) so I'll be buying 2 Xylo's, however, I'll probably try to catch a sale to lessen the pain a bit since I still need triggers and barrels.

 

[Ceramik]

Yeah I just printed it on my Bambulab X1C.

I'm still learning Fusion as I'm not a CAD designer so it's a bit of a chore for me to design things but it's fun to experiment.

I did find a small Arca rail on Thingiverse that I printed as well and it's a perfect fit so that's nice to see.

I could still use the measurement for the height of the sides of the Xylo (excluding the Arca rail) so that I can get that correct. I started with 1.5" as a guess but an actual number would be nice.

If anyone wants the file once I get it done I'll put it up on Thingiverse.

I have 2 CDG's (1 from SAC here now and 1 from ARC direct that I'm waiting on) so I'll be buying 2 Xylo's, however, I'll probably try to catch a sale to lessen the pain a bit since I still need triggers and barrels.

1.46"

 

[Cody S]

Adjustable trigger hanger is a gamechanger as far as I’m concerned. Being able to tune any trigger to be perfect is awesome.

I have something like 9 different custom actions currently, and that’s my favorite feature of all of them. Mechanical ejectors are also my preference by far.

Nothing wrong with the Solus at all, but unless I’m down to my last dollar, I’m not picking it over a CDG…

glad someone said it.
are soulless really still 650? I won't lie, that is rather impressive if true.
not to throw shade on them but when I was shopping literally 2 months ago they were at price parody with CDG. even at 650$ vs 900$ I would have 100% bought the CDG.
at 650 vs 1200 I'd still probably buy the cdg, but that math is very competitive at least.

 

[Firestarter123]

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Proof of life from my FFL.
I went a little counter-culture with my options but I dig the look.

I just got one with the standard knob and fluting in black, however, the one I ordered from ARC is exactly like this one and I can't wait! There's just something about this configuration that I love.

They even let me change it to a .473" bolt head from the .378" bolt head since the one I got from SAC was a .378" and I don't need multiple 223's right now.

 

[Firestarter123]

These from McMaster Carr work great if you want a non-aluminum round knob.

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[JaredCO]

Did we decide barrels in magnum calibers from the nucleus will headspace correctly on the CDG?

 

[357Max]

Picked up my second CDG Friday. Ordered the last day before price increase.

So I have 1 of the first CDG's and they are a few updates. Most have been covered in this thread.
One I haven't seen mention is that on the latest version, the bolt head is either DLC or Nitrided. Bolt machining is super clean. Cleaner than the early version which had a shinny uncoated bolt.

 

[Cody S]

that was the only complaint I have about my action is the bolt head wasn't treated so it looks a little weird. works good and the price was certainly right.

 

[AllenOne1]

that was the only complaint I have about my action is the bolt head wasn't treated so it looks a little weird. works good and the price was certainly right.

And I liked the untreated bolt head, was kind of sad when I heard they were being treated now. All in the eye of the beholder I guess. Makes no difference in operation.

 

[TheOE800]

And I liked the untreated bolt head, was kind of sad when I heard they were being treated now. All in the eye of the beholder I guess. Makes no difference in operation.

Trade you my untreated .473 bolt head for a treated one.

 

[AllenOne1]

Trade you my untreated .473 bolt head for a treated one.

If I had bought a new action before the price increase I would do it, but I decided to buy bullets instead. I was going with a smaller bolt head too as I would really like to do a .223. But$$$

 

[Firestarter123]

I picked up my .473" action Tuesday that I ordered and it looks good too. Now I just need to build them....someday.


Having just ordered a PM-833TV milling machine yesterday I'm out of disposable income for awhile.

 

[notacos4u]

So finally getting around to assembling my CDG. Proof 6.5 in a MDT HNT26 chassis. Has anyone had any issues with the AW mags latching in these chassis? It doesn’t appear my AW mags want to seat fully. Any advice would greatly be appreciated. Thanks

 

[Cody S]

So finally getting around to assembling my CDG. Proof 6.5 in a MDT HNT26 chassis. Has anyone had any issues with the AW mags latching in these chassis? It doesn’t appear my AW mags want to seat fully. Any advice would greatly be appreciated. Thanks

what mag catch are you using? you should be using the standard one.

 

[notacos4u]

what mag catch are you using? you should be using the standard one.

Whatever one came with the HNT26…. Not sure if maybe the HNT 26 doesn’t allow the utilization of an AW mag.

 

[Im2bent]

Whatever one came with the HNT26…. Not sure if maybe the HNT 26 doesn’t allow the utilization of an AW mag.

Mdt should be able to answer that.

 

[st1650]

Can anyone confirm AW mags working in the HNT26 ? Even if MDT is not officially supporting, do they sell an spare latch that can be modified to work with AW ?

 

[dubbednate]

Has anyone ran the Proof steel prefits for the CDG?

 

[Maggot]

Here's my CdG in 7 PRC, 30 moa rail, with a 26" PVAS barrel, MDT stock and Fat Bastard muzzle brake. Every one who sees is jealous. If they get to shoot it they immediately go buy a Fat Bastard. Not only cuts recoil, but tunes out muzzle flip. Only downside I've found is the 7-8 week wait, but patience is a virtue, or so they tell me.

 

[33jeep]

Can anyone confirm AW mags working in the HNT26 ? Even if MDT is not officially supporting, do they sell an spare latch that can be modified to work with AW ?

I've had 500 or so problem free rounds of 6.5 through an AW in Hunt 26. I did not have to adjust anything.

 

[CMP70306]

So finally getting around to assembling my CDG. Proof 6.5 in a MDT HNT26 chassis. Has anyone had any issues with the AW mags latching in these chassis? It doesn’t appear my AW mags want to seat fully. Any advice would greatly be appreciated. Thanks

Whatever one came with the HNT26…. Not sure if maybe the HNT 26 doesn’t allow the utilization of an AW mag.

Can anyone confirm AW mags working in the HNT26 ? Even if MDT is not officially supporting, do they sell an spare latch that can be modified to work with AW ?

If you reach out to MDT they will send you a bag of latches if you don’t know which one will work. That’s what they did for me running the AICS mags in my HNT.

 

[clyancey]

So finally getting around to assembling my CDG. Proof 6.5 in a MDT HNT26 chassis. Has anyone had any issues with the AW mags latching in these chassis? It doesn’t appear my AW mags want to seat fully. Any advice would greatly be appreciated. Thanks

I had same problem. Just a little too tight to get the AW mag to seat. Popped out the latch, took a couple strokes off the top with a file, and with great effort/pain, reassembled that P.I.T.A spring and latch for perfect seating.

 

[notacos4u]

I had same problem. Just a little too tight to get the AW mag to seat. Popped out the latch, took a couple strokes off the top with a file, and with great effort/pain, reassembled that P.I.T.A spring and latch for perfect seating.

I think MDT is stepping up and sending me additional latches to try. Very standup for the company considering I was willing to pay for them, and they said don’t worry about it.

 

[KaSh0508]

My CDG is mounted in an MDT ACC. Also running AW mags and it is a royal pain to get them to seat. Have to slam them in to get them to seat but once seated it runs flawlessly. Super stiff to push the mag release to get them to drop out as well. I’ll have to message MDT about a different latch as well.

 

[GBMaryland]

Funny, I don't have that issue and all I have are AW mags at this point. I'm using a Vision Chassis...