New chassis for my RimX, I loved my Manners T2A that I had on it but have always preferred the feel of a chassis especially for 22 matches.
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There has been a lot of discussion regarding difficult chambering and hard bolt closure on RimX barreled actions chambered by Keystone Accuracy. I had these problems as well. I discussed the issues with John and sent my barreled action back to him. He received it last Friday, polished the chamber and had it headed back to me the next day! I received it and it was easy to see the difference "before & after". This afternoon I shot 50 rounds through it using 3 different magazines and it functioned perfectly. Polishing the chamber made a dramatic difference. Thanks to John for the quick turn around and getting the problems solved.
Id bet another 100-300 rounds would have done the same thing.That is not the case with mine. Already had over 500 rounds through it and was still having problems. John at Keystone and Ray at Zermatt recommended polishing the chamber. It is a 22LR Match Eachus chamber. I did not have it rechambered- just polished. That solved the problem immediately.
100,000 rounds wouldn't have smoothed mine outHow do you figure? Rimfire barely wears in a throat. Takes tens of thousands of rounds. And cycling 300 cases is going to smooth out a rough chamber? I don't think so.
personal experience with 2 keystone barrels that did smooth out significantly in the 500-800 round markHow do you figure? Rimfire barely wears in a throat. Takes tens of thousands of rounds. And cycling 300 cases is going to smooth out a rough chamber? I don't think so.
anyone with a lathe can easily make oneDoes anyone know where I can get a thread protector to match my benchmark barrel for my RimX. I thought when you order a barrel that is threaded that it would come automatically with a thread protector to match the barrel.
A lot of smiths are not doing blended theead protectors atm since it is not worth their time vs getting the next barrel in. You are better off finding someone with a lathe locally to do itDoes anyone know where I can get a thread protector to match my benchmark barrel for my RimX. I thought when you order a barrel that is threaded that it would come automatically with a thread protector to match the barrel.
John at Keystone just made some thread protectors up. Check them out.
glad he changed from the original invisi thread protectorsJohn at Keystone just made some thread protectors up. Check them out.
22”You should see your hits ! 👁 What length are you going with ?
22”
Mostly wanting to better balance my rifle for matches and get rid of the weights on it. Actually hoping to make overall weight a bit lighter this way.
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First time shooting RIM X, Accuracy International AI AX, 20" BenchMark Barrel, BIX N Andy Single Stage trigger under 1 lb, Rear Homemade Bag, Front Atlas Bipod Extend 2 notches up, Concrete sitting bench, @ 50 Yrds , Wind 5-8 MPH to Light Wind, Lapua Center-X Ammo
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Right now with my 18” barrel and chassis weights it weighs 16.7 lbs and still don’t quite have the balance point I want for shooting off of barricades and props. This should take care of that plus get rid of the weights.Thats gonna be one heavy sob
Yes, 3 Grooves, I think it can shoot better. I am not a professional, just a hobbyist. I was shooting the rifle again yesterday and noticed my groups got better and I think it is because I am keeping the buttpad tighter to my shoulder. I wasn't firm with the buttpad on my shoulder in those previous targets I posted. When I was shooting that day in the cold about 42 F , I noticed alot of failure to fire rounds, ammo was SK Standard Plus. Worked perfect in warmer weather. There was little bit of debris on front of barrel chamber, could have possibly been the problem? Will try to test again. Very Happy with it.3 grooves Benchmark?
Yes, 3 Grooves, I think it can shoot better. I am not a professional, just a hobbyist. I was shooting the rifle again yesterday and noticed my groups got better and I think it is because I am keeping the buttpad tighter to my shoulder. I wasn't firm with the buttpad on my shoulder in those previous targets I posted. When I was shooting that day in the cold about 42 F , I noticed alot of failure to fire rounds, ammo was SK Standard Plus. Worked perfect in warmer weather. There was little bit of debris on front of barrel chamber, could have possibly been the problem? Will try to test again. Very Happy with it.
I originally had issues with mine, keystone fixed my chamber once. But while all that was happening I bought a proof pre-fit, it’s still on the gun, so far with Eley Match or Tenex, it shoots ragged one hole groups and everything feeds and cycles beautifully.OK i have to ask. Why do so many people keep buying these actions.. If you get one that wont feed or work right Zermatt will tell you its the barrel. But Zermatt wont make a barrel action. Now i know why. I have 2 of them and they are NIGHTMARES . I have Keystone and custom barrels still having trouble. It looks like the bolt face is the issue it is like an exwife its allways your fault
Be careful, anytime now some primal Neanderthal type guy is likely to show up to educate everyone that nobody but he can correctly build a rifle for this action.OK i have to ask. Why do so many people keep buying these actions.. If you get one that wont feed or work right Zermatt will tell you its the barrel. But Zermatt wont make a barrel action. Now i know why. I have 2 of them and they are NIGHTMARES . I have Keystone and custom barrels still having trouble. It looks like the bolt face is the issue it is like an exwife its allways your fault
Be careful, anytime now some primal Neanderthal type guy is likely to show up to educate everyone that nobody but he can correctly build a rifle for this action.
OK i have to ask. Why do so many people keep buying these actions.. If you get one that wont feed or work right Zermatt will tell you its the barrel. But Zermatt wont make a barrel action. Now i know why. I have 2 of them and they are NIGHTMARES . I have Keystone and custom barrels still having trouble. It looks like the bolt face is the issue it is like an exwife its allways your fault
I originally had issues with mine, keystone fixed my chamber once. But while all that was happening I bought a proof pre-fit, it’s still on the gun, so far with Eley Match or Tenex, it shoots ragged one hole groups and everything feeds and cycles beautifully.
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OK i have to ask. Why do so many people keep buying these actions.. If you get one that wont feed or work right Zermatt will tell you its the barrel. But Zermatt wont make a barrel action. Now i know why. I have 2 of them and they are NIGHTMARES . I have Keystone and custom barrels still having trouble. It looks like the bolt face is the issue it is like an exwife its allways your fault
The answer to your question is pretty obvious, there are a lot of people out there having success with the product. Any issues pointed out on an online forum don't make or break the viability of a product. How those issues are handled and solved can definitely be both destructive or constructive to the overall viability and success of the product. If you're having issues, it's very obvious on this exact forum that we are more than willing to work with you to identify and resolve the issues.OK i have to ask. Why do so many people keep buying these actions.. If you get one that wont feed or work right Zermatt will tell you its the barrel. But Zermatt wont make a barrel action. Now i know why. I have 2 of them and they are NIGHTMARES . I have Keystone and custom barrels still having trouble. It looks like the bolt face is the issue it is like an exwife its allways your fault
Keystone did send him a mail saying that he could send his barrel back to them to have them add more chamfering but he never did. Since his just works.
One Qustion Do you build complete rifles Ready to shoot. If not Why. Vudoo does. You make a action. Why not build a accurate gun arond your action. Back it up make a match ready 22.The answer to your question is pretty obvious, there are a lot of people out there having success with the product. Any issues pointed out on an online forum don't make or break the viability of a product. How those issues are handled and solved can definitely be both destructive or constructive to the overall viability and success of the product. If you're having issues, it's very obvious on this exact forum that we are more than willing to work with you to identify and resolve the issues.
The design of the bolt face is new and we feel it to be innovative in the market. For new and/or different designs to be implemented in any market place, there's an amount of trial and error for them to be either ruled out as an option or accepted as a widely used option. We've never said straight up to anyone that the work of someone else is to blame for any issues. If people are having problems, we ask for as much information as possible to identify the potential cause of their issue. After working through these issues for 10 months, we've learned a thing or two on how to identify the problem. We've gone to pretty extreme levels and have brought in some of the troubled products for our own inspection and to more easily identify the problem through hands on experience. Some things aren't as easy to identify and produce a solution for over the phone as others. That's part of the joy some people get playing in the custom rifle world. If someone doesn't want to tinker or build, they should probably just go buy something off the shelf as it'll likely be easier on the budget and has a better chance of limiting the potential for problems by limiting the amount of customization available. If that person wants a full custom rifle but doesn't want the challenge of setting it up or the inherently higher potential for issues, they should probably just pay someone they believe to be qualified to do that for them. We all know there's no shortage of custom shops out there.
We know that within the custom action and firearm industry there are thousands of options for stocks, barrels, triggers, etc. for people to choose from and utilize on their individual system. We don't offer barreled actions or full rifle systems for the simple reason that there are too many choices for all the other components and how they're produced. We have had success with this model in the past with our center fire actions so we maintained that model when designing and producing our rim fire actions. A lot of people want a unique rifle system so we give them that option. There's nothing wrong with controlling variables by offering a limited amount of variations, but that isn't our model so we don't do that.
If anyone would like to have a conversation about the issues they're experiencing, I'll be more than happy to do so. Jumping online and claiming we'll always blame a different product for issues with your individual system is irresponsible and inaccurate on every level. Is the problem sometimes identified as being in the barrel? Absolutely. Do we land on that the first time we hear of an issue with our products? Absolutely not. I'll be happy to send anyone new parts or return labels for any of our products to get hands on and help identify problems and learn how to solve them. Those people have got to be willing to give us that opportunity when that happens, though. Shutting down and establishing the opinion that the product isn't a viable option in the market isn't a good way to get problems solved.
For everyone else that is interested in the product, take some time and read through the success stories and how happy people are with their products in this thread. That's part of the reason people keep buying the RimX action.
They've chosen a different business model as was fairly clearly written. Plenty of action companies make just actions and not complete rifles, it's not an uncommon thing.One Qustion Do you build complete rifles Ready to shoot. If not Why. Vudoo does. You make a action. Why not build a accurate gun arond your action. Back it up make a match ready 22.
"BTW I haven't owned Vudoo, or RimX, or whatever the other uber 22 bolt rifles are."Just mentioning this, and nothing against Vudoo, but 3 of the 4 Vudoo's I've been around have had problems and were either sold or sent back to them, twice in one circumstance of the latter.
So barreled actions are no guarantee of reliability either.
BTW I haven't owned Vudoo, or RimX, or whatever the other uber 22 bolt rifles are.
Just mentioning this, and nothing against Vudoo, but 3 of the 4 Vudoo's I've been around have had problems and were either sold or sent back to them, twice in one circumstance of the latter.
So barreled actions are no guarantee of reliability either.
BTW I haven't owned Vudoo, or RimX, or whatever the other uber 22 bolt rifles are.
One Qustion Do you build complete rifles Ready to shoot. If not Why. Vudoo does. You make a action. Why not build a accurate gun arond your action. Back it up make a match ready 22.
OP-" I'm looking to buy a Nightforce ATACR , what do you think?"BTW I haven't owned Vudoo, or RimX, or whatever the other uber 22 bolt rifles are.
It's all about relevant context Steve. Might you know how many rifles/barreled actions we pay to ship to us that all they require is proper cleaning or proper installation into a stock or chassis? I'm not saying we've not had small issues, but we deal with them and most times we're ahead of it. Anyone that's actually dealt with us through things like this already know that dealing with an issue is as simple as reaching out.
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OP-" I'm looking to buy a Nightforce ATACR , what do you think?"
First post- "I've never owned one, but my Vortex is the bomb"
Pro tip- only post if you have some personal knowledge or expertise to add to the conversation.
You're responding to noobsAnalogy purposes only - On the other hand if someone sees 3 NF going down during matches and knows the people that own them....
You're responding to noobs