Just arrived. 5 lots, 100rd each. I'll get out Monday or Tuesday and test them.
Was just talking to Mike he's finishing up the muzzles on my three Rim X barrels today.
He said the VCC and the 1.2 straight are sold, he's got one M24 Rim X Barrel left whoever takes it he said free shipping.
He said the VCC and the 1.2 straight are sold, he's got one M24 Rim X Barrel left whoever takes it he said free shipping.
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Very impressive. How many rounds did you get through the barrel before you started seeing groups under .5"? Did you have to season the barrel for the eley match or did it hammer like this immediately?
Looking at the first groups down my 22" ACE 1.2" straight it was hammering groups in the 0.1's to 0.2's with different lots of CX, Midas+, R50, RWS Special Match and SK+......
I have a 20" ACE 1.2" about to ship from Manzella along with a 1.2" Krieger and 1.2" Green Mountain.
I have a 20" ACE 1.2" about to ship from Manzella along with a 1.2" Krieger and 1.2" Green Mountain.
Mike spun me up a 22" M24 with an Ace blank and so far I've been having a difficult time getting it settled in. This is my first precision 22 so I'm definitely new to the lot sorting and ammo testing world. Its also possible that I'm overlooking something else with my build.
Everything torqued to manufacturer spec using torque screwdriver/ torque wrench for barrel. Headspace checked with provided no go gauge.
RimX
Aero solus chassis
Razor iii 6-36 sitting in a leupold one piece mount.
Ace blank 22" finished, threaded 1/2-28 for dead air mask (I tried grouping with/without the mask, and with/without the blended thread protector).
TT diamond
Atlas CAL
heavy rear bag
So far Ive tried 14 types of ammo with four or more 5 shot groups using each type. Tenex, Centerx, Midas plus, eley black box match, both types of cci green tag, eley pistol bullseye, norma match, wolf match extra, etc with none of them able to reliably produce anything under .45". Most of the higher end stuff shot around .5". I haven't found any flavor that reliably shoots under .4". The best group I shot to date was actually cheap cci minimag varmints at .24". I'm mostly writing that one off as luck. First 2 outings were clear days with almost zero wind.
After the first 500 rounds of misc stuff down the pipe I cleaned it, and went back out with the highest performing stuff. I shot more groups with the eley black and norma match, this time 10 shot groups. It was windier this time than the previous 2 outings so I wasn't surprised to see the groups open up even more.
Just as a point of comparison, I took my 10/22 out on the same windy day. I used the R3 on the 10/22 so optics were equal. Its a lightweight hunting build with a volquartsen carbon fiber barrel, cheap bipod, and factory ruger trigger (like 5lbs). the first 10 shot group with the 10/22 with the first ammo I grabbed (norma match) shot a group identical to the two 10 shot groups from the rimx.
I'm not really sure what to do next other than shooting more. It seems like everyone with a manzella barrel shoots lights out immediately with it, so I'm left scratching my head. Is 1 MOA at 50 really what I should expect even with top dollar ammo? Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
So many variables it's so hard for me to tell you what the problem is over the internet. Is it your bench, is it your ammo, is it your chassis, trigger, barrel, you. Idk
If you get to a point where you want to know I'd the barrel is the issue feel free to send it to me and I'd be glad to screw it on my RimX and test it and let you know my results. Then you can talk to Mike if it's a barrel issue.
If you get to a point where you want to know I'd the barrel is the issue feel free to send it to me and I'd be glad to screw it on my RimX and test it and let you know my results. Then you can talk to Mike if it's a barrel issue.
Thank you for the offer. I think for now I'm going to keep shooting it and see if I can find an ammo it likes more than what I've tested. If I can't figure it out I might have to take you up on it. It would at least give me the peace of mind that its NOT a barrel problem. I know Mike does excellent work and stands behind every barrel he cuts, but I don't want to go down that path unless I know 100% its a barrel issue.
No problem. Id be more than glad to test it if you want.
I just want to say. Walking out and shooting groups in the 0.1s and 0.2s is not as easy as it sounds. Especially if it's not something you've done before.
Make sure you have a stable concrete bench or you may be better off shooting prone.. make sure you aren't jerking the trigger. I run a very light Bix N Andy..
Then test multiple lots of quality ammo. CenterX, Midas, R50, SK RM, SK+....
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