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The war in Ukraine and Donbas

I'm surprised we haven't seen more hypersonic missiles taking out critical infrastructure at this point. Although that depleted uranium weapons cache was a pretty big hello.
Maybe he really doesn't want them to surrender at this point.
 
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I have the same gut feeling, the longer this stuff lasts, the more Russia will gain both for its domestic development (which is happening pretty fast) and on the world stage. Sounds weird, but so far, I see a lot of changes happening, and many of these changes appear to be in Russia's favor. It is a real crazy stuff, and I do not think the "west" is actually able to figure out what is going on... V.Putin seems to be using a classic judo strategy - use your opponent's moves/energy to defeat the opponent. V. Putin is a judo master, not sure what is the color of his belt. But I may be wrong...
 
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I have the same gut feeling, the longer this stuff lasts, the more Russia will gain both for it's internal development (which is happening very fast) and on the on the world stage. Sounds crazy, but so far, I see a lot of changes happening, and many of these changes appear to be in Russia's favor. It is real crazy stuff, and I do not think the "west" is actually able to figure out what is going on... V.Putin seems to be using a classic judo strategy - use your opponent's moves/energy to defeat the opponent. V. Putin is a judo master. But I may be wrong...
I think this is exasperated by the current administration and others in the US gov. Biden’s speech gaffes, falling down and obvious impaired cognitive faculties from his two brain aneurism. Combined with his old age cause the USA to look extremely weak.

Combined with Kamala running around Africa pushing gay right and WOKE culture. She’ literally landed in Zambia at an airport built by China, travelled on a road funded by China, to give a speech in a building built by China, about how Zambia and the rest of Africa should not be allied or influenced by China.



This is not demonstrating strength. This aloof leadership is really damaging the US image in the world though many of its actions.

How about the recent South African leader traveling to Poland to meet with Zelensky, then St. Petersburg to meet with Putin on a mission supporting an ending to the fighting. Where are the western leaders working to this end?
 
How about the recent South African leader traveling to Poland to meet with Zelensky, then St. Petersburg to meet with Putin on a mission supporting an ending to the fighting. Where are the western leaders working to this end?
No kidding.

Almost as if these controllable puppets were chosen specifically for their pliability and tardness so that the spooks and MIC could run shit behind the scenes and further their own interests to the max.
 
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At least after the first round, Germans got the band back together and made first-rate car makers from the same industries, this time round chinese will take over ,German car industry looks like its ready to bite the dirt.
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The MOST important commentary, which should be reaching everybody in the U.S., who cares about their well being... And, it is also a super fun to watch. S. Ritter is really nailed it like nobody else. Watch it now before it is removed...

BTW, I did listen to the latest V. Putin speech (in Russian), which Scott Ritter was refering to, and V. Putin did say something in line with "fuck you, bitches", meaning the "west". Normally, he would not be saying anything like this. So, Russia is really fed up with all this BS and ready to act.

Thanks for posting this. I probably would have missed it. I could quibble on some of the particulars, but overall I'd say he pretty well nails it.
 
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its a propeller spinning in a gunsight.

FW-190 engine.

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It’s sad.

The Ukraine actually looks like beautiful land if blood soaked.

There are people there I’m sure with memories.

It’s one thing when your enemy was on the door step now it’s Washington fighting remotely killing Ukrainians.
 
I think this is exasperated by the current administration and others in the US gov. Biden’s speech gaffes, falling down and obvious impaired cognitive faculties from his two brain aneurism. Combined with his old age cause the USA to look extremely weak.

Combined with Kamala running around Africa pushing gay right and WOKE culture. She’ literally landed in Zambia at an airport built by China, travelled on a road funded by China, to give a speech in a building built by China, about how Zambia and the rest of Africa should not be allied or influenced by China.

This is not demonstrating strength. This aloof leadership is really damaging the US image in the world though many of its actions.
The US has always told countries what to do rather than ask, it’s a one way street with little concern for other countries interests.
This only works when the US is strong and the dollar and their financial infrastructure are the only options.

IIRC the only option the west gave to African countries to help development was to become enslaved to the IMF, you can see how Chinas building infrastructure idea is more palatable and they even get shit at the end instead of corruption hoovering up all the lose cash.

The same way that the UK thought it was in any way acceptable to fly to India and tell them not to buy Russian petroleum products. A former colony that England raped and starved that is now an independent country with energy needs and the UK think they can tell them what to do, while offering nothing in return.

The west is crippled by its sheer fucking arrogance.
 
So the African leader's visit In Ukraine and Russia uncovered some details that now make sense ,Vlad showed a treaty signed by Ukrainan delagate to end the war, with specific details visible on the pages

Ukrainian offensive to retake areas around Kiev and Shumy was not military,but negotiated in Turkey in March
Ukrainians signed a deal to seek neutrality and limit the size of the army in return for Russia withdrawing troops
Russian troops withdrew, Ukrainans shot their own head negotiator, reneged on the deal, and declared a major Military victory

Negotiator shot for Treason like customary in a democracy
https://kyivindependent.com/media-s...inian-negotiations-team-suspected-of-treason/

Hero negotiator shot by mistake, saved Kiev

 
From the WSJ- On Denis Kireev

Speaker 1: Budanov a story to tell with some major insight about Kireev's role as an informant,

Speaker 2: And he told me that Denis Kireev worked directly for him for years, and that it was Denis Kireev who had developed the intelligence that allowed Ukraine to defend itself against the initial Russian attack on Kyiv.

Speaker 1: What? That's huge.

Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Budanov says in February it is Kireev who's the first one to tell him that Putin has made the decision to invade, and he gives him the date, the time, and the location of the main invasion force.

Speaker 6: (foreign language).

Speaker 2: What Kireev told him was that Russia planned to invade in the early hours of February 24th, 2022, and that Russia was planning to land troops and paratroopers at the Antonov Airport in Khostomel just outside Kyiv.

Speaker 1: Russia's plan was that, if it could seize the airport early, Moscow could take nearby Kyiv. Instead.

Speaker 7: Most of the Russian forces have abandoned the strategically crucial Antonov Airport, just six miles outside of Kyiv.

Speaker 8: Ukrainian commanders shelled the runway to prevent the invasion force of airborne troops from landing.

Speaker 1: The day before the invasion, Kireev's intel gave Ukraine the element of surprise. Russia's battle for the airstrip failed.

Speaker 8: (foreign language).

Speaker 2: Budanov told me that, if it wasn't for Kireev, that Kyiv likely would've fallen in the first days of the war.

Photo of Kireev negotiating with Russia.
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Speaker 1: This was a major win for Ukraine, but Budanov wanted more from his secret operative. He had a new assignment for Kireev, one that risked exposing his work as an informant. Budanov wanted Kireev to attend ceasefire talks with Russia because Kireev knew two members of the Russian delegation.

Speaker 2: He shows up at the table. Photos are later circulated where you see negotiators on either side of the table, and there's Kireev and a lot of people who knew him. They were shocked.

Speaker 1: Here's Budanov.

Speaker 6: (foreign language).

Speaker 9: Obviously after his appearance there, his connection to the special services became evident for everyone. It was no longer possible to hide, but unfortunately back then the situation was critical and we had to take the risk.

Speaker 1: And so what happens?

Speaker 2: The negotiations don't go very far. Kireev came back to Kyiv after them, and he basically told his security team I'm done with all that. But just as quickly, Budanov again prevails upon him to join another round, the second round.

Speaker 1: The next round of ceasefire talks were scheduled for March 3rd in Belarus. As he was on his way to catch a train to go to the talks, armed SBU agents arrested Kireev in downtown Kyiv and loaded him into a van. Budanov recounted the rest of the story.

Speaker 6: (foreign language).

Speaker 9: And then he wasn't taken to the SBU building but about a kilometer away from there. Then the car door was opened and a dead body fell out of the car with a bullet in the leg and in the head. Those are the facts.

Speaker 1: And are you satisfied that he was working for the Ukrainians based on your reporting?

Speaker 2: People like General Budanov, spy chiefs, have motives for talking to people like us, and it's up to us to try and verify what they say and to discard things that we can't verify. The truth of the matter is General Budanov spoke with us on the record, and he gave us material that we could verify. The SBU hasn't commented on it.

Speaker 1: In response to questions about Kireev's death, the SBU said it can't comment because the matter is under investigation and said that it's working to counter, quote, subversive activities of the Russians. A few days after Kireev's bloodied body was dumped on the sidewalk and he was labeled a traitor, he was awarded a medal.

Speaker 2: A posthumous medal. The certificate was signed by President Zelenskyy and General Budanov arranged a full military funeral. And he was laid to rest in an exclusive cemetery in Kyiv surrounded by the graves of Ukrainian heroes.

Speaker 1: Since the invasion, the Ukrainian government has tried to purge its ranks of Russian accomplices. Last July, Zelenskyy fired the SBU chief. He said dozens of SBU officials had been working for Russia and that more than 650 treason cases involving government officials had been opened. Brett also says Kireev's death marked a big change in the balance of power among Ukraine's intelligence agencies. Budanov now oversees all intelligence gathering for Ukraine. What does all of this tell us about Kireev's legacy?

Speaker 2: Kireev made the ultimate sacrifice, so he'll be remembered as someone who looked himself in the eye in a time of crisis and realized that he loved his country over anything else. It wasn't until this all-out invasion last year, and that caused a lot of people like Denis Kireev to look themselves in the eye and say, "Which side am I on?" They could no longer dance on both sides.

Sounds like they want to kill, jail or get rid of anyone who is pushing for peace or any sort of normal relation with Russia. Persoanlly this hightlights just how far extreme the Kiev Junta has gone to end any possibility at peace.
 
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misleading tweet. it was just a draft, but it does show that ukraine was at some point willing to negotiate and somebody stopped it.

 

Dude the trench raid vid is fckn gnarly. Starting around 16:03

CQB in its rawest, WW1 style fashion. Note to self: dont ever rush in to a unknown, fortified position like a bull in a china shop. Try to sneak in to a good position quietly, and then flush the enemy out/force them to come to you..
 
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Imprisoned Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny urged his supporters Monday to begin a broad campaign against Moscow's actions in Ukraine as he went on trial on new charges of extremism that could keep him behind bars for decades.

The trial began inside a maximum security penal colony in Melekhovo, 250 kilometers (150 miles) east of Moscow, where Navalny, 47, is serving a nine-year sentence for fraud and contempt of court — charges he says are politically motivated. Soon after it started, the judge closed the trial despite Navalny's demand to keep it open.

In a statement posted on social media by his allies, Navalny declared that the decision to close the trial was a sign of fear by President Vladimir Putin, and he announced the start of a campaign against Moscow's decision to send troops to Ukraine.
 

Ukrainian Involvement in U.S. Politics

Then there is the elephant in the room that no one acknowledges. In the last eight years, Ukraine has insidiously managed to massage U.S. domestic politics in a fashion like no other nation in recent memory. Kyiv’s intrusion is ironic, since we had been lectured nonstop about foreign meddling involving nonexistent “Russian collusion” and “Russian disinformation.”

From 2013 onward, Ukrainian opponents of the then-Kyiv government sought out officials high up in the Obama Administration to aid in their efforts to remove the elected, albeit pro-Russian, president and then to help fast track the proper successor government.

In 2015-2016, on the assumption that Hillary Clinton was a shoo-in for the presidency, a Ukrainian-American consultant was hired by the Democratic National Committee. More specifically, she colluded with the hierarchy of the Ukrainian embassy in Washington, D.C., to derail Trump’s then-campaign manager Paul Manafort on grounds he was too friendly with the Russians.

Politico reported at the time that the same Alexandra Chalupa, a Clinton acolyte, as part of her $412,000 fee from the DNC, also tapped Ukrainian sources to advance the narrative of Trump-Russian collusion—a project apparently aided indirectly by the Ukrainian Embassy.

Ukrainian Serhiy Leshchenko, the former investigative journalist and Ukrainian lawmaker, was reportedly a source for the fake Christopher Steele dossier—the catalyst that launched James Comey’s misadventure of Crossfire Hurricane.

At the climax of the 2016 campaign, the then-Ukrainian ambassador to the United States, Valeriy Chaly, took the extraordinary step of weighing in on the election. He wrote for The Hill an anti-Trump candidacy op-ed that helped feed the then-Russian-collusion hoax that was intended to damage the Trump campaign.

Ukrainian-American and military veteran Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman became a left-wing folk hero for his efforts in prompting President Trump’s first impeachment. Vindman, remember, was assigned as a National Security Council staffer to listen in on a classified presidential phone call between Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/victor-davis-hanson-ukraine-american-gordian-knot


Some steep discounts
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Ukrainian Involvement in U.S. Politics

Then there is the elephant in the room that no one acknowledges. In the last eight years, Ukraine has insidiously managed to massage U.S. domestic politics in a fashion like no other nation in recent memory. Kyiv’s intrusion is ironic, since we had been lectured nonstop about foreign meddling involving nonexistent “Russian collusion” and “Russian disinformation.”

From 2013 onward, Ukrainian opponents of the then-Kyiv government sought out officials high up in the Obama Administration to aid in their efforts to remove the elected, albeit pro-Russian, president and then to help fast track the proper successor government.

In 2015-2016, on the assumption that Hillary Clinton was a shoo-in for the presidency, a Ukrainian-American consultant was hired by the Democratic National Committee. More specifically, she colluded with the hierarchy of the Ukrainian embassy in Washington, D.C., to derail Trump’s then-campaign manager Paul Manafort on grounds he was too friendly with the Russians.

Politico reported at the time that the same Alexandra Chalupa, a Clinton acolyte, as part of her $412,000 fee from the DNC, also tapped Ukrainian sources to advance the narrative of Trump-Russian collusion—a project apparently aided indirectly by the Ukrainian Embassy.

Ukrainian Serhiy Leshchenko, the former investigative journalist and Ukrainian lawmaker, was reportedly a source for the fake Christopher Steele dossier—the catalyst that launched James Comey’s misadventure of Crossfire Hurricane.

At the climax of the 2016 campaign, the then-Ukrainian ambassador to the United States, Valeriy Chaly, took the extraordinary step of weighing in on the election. He wrote for The Hill an anti-Trump candidacy op-ed that helped feed the then-Russian-collusion hoax that was intended to damage the Trump campaign.

Ukrainian-American and military veteran Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman became a left-wing folk hero for his efforts in prompting President Trump’s first impeachment. Vindman, remember, was assigned as a National Security Council staffer to listen in on a classified presidential phone call between Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/victor-davis-hanson-ukraine-american-gordian-knot


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That makes it sound like Ukraine was a lead actor and directing. Which is the opposite. They were used as a tool and they are being played by the deep state.
"All the world is a stage."
 
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That makes it sound like Ukraine was a lead actor and directing. Which is the opposite. They were used as a tool and they are being played by the deep state.
"All the world is a stage."
Lets just say two parasites interests aligned at the moment, getting rid of Trump and getting the bags of money flowing with no oversight
Parasites in question being Ukrainian and US gov, and the host US taxpayer.


Meanwhile it great to be a defense contractor in Ukraine , this is just the bottom end , the price gauged stuff doesnt count.

"In Rush to Arm Ukraine, Weapons Are Bought but Not Delivered, or Too Broken to Use" out of order to be usable"), reports that the Ukrainian government paid hundreds of millions of dollars to contractors for weapons that were not delivered, and some of the much publicized weapons transferred to Ukraine by Western countries turned out to be so dilapidated that they were considered fit only for to dismantle for parts. 155-mm / 39 self-propelled howitzer M109 of the armed forces of Ukraine on a position in the Bakhmut area, April 2023 of the year (c) Mauricio Lima / The New York Times
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Ukrainian government documents show that, as of the end of last year, Kyiv had paid arms suppliers more than $800 million since the Russian invasion in February 2022 for contracts that remained wholly or partly unfulfilled.

Two individuals involved in Ukraine's arms purchases said that some of the missing weapons were eventually delivered, while in other cases, intermediaries returned the money. But as of early this spring, hundreds of millions of dollars had been paid out, including to state-owned companies, for weapons that had never been received, one of the people said.

“We had cases where we paid money and didn’t receive it,” Ukraine’s deputy defense minister Volodymyr Gavrilov, who handles arms procurement, said in a recent interview. He said that the government of Ukraine this year began to analyze its past purchases and exclude problematic contractors.

Problems are inevitable in the rush to acquire weapons across Ukraine. After Russia's invasion last year, Western allies sent tens of billions of dollars worth of weapons to Ukraine. As of last week, the United States alone has provided about $40 billion in military aid (and more in financial and humanitarian aid), while European allies have also provided tens of billions of dollars. In addition, Ukraine has spent its own billions of dollars in the private arms market.

Many Western allied shipments are advanced weapons, such as US air defense systems that have proven highly effective against Russian drones and missiles. But in other cases, the Allies provided equipment that was in storage, which, at best, needed major repairs.

About 30 percent of Kyiv's arsenal is under repair at any given time — a high figure, according to defense experts, for a military that needs whatever weapons it can get to develop a counteroffensive.

“If I were the head of the army that donates equipment to Ukraine, I would be very embarrassed professionally if I donated weapons in a bad condition,” said Ben Barry, a ground combat expert at the International Institute for Strategic Studies in London.

A case in point is the recent delivery of 33 [M109L] self-propelled howitzers donated by the Italian government. The published video shows how smoke is coming from the engine of one of these self-propelled guns, and coolant flows out of the other.

The Italian Ministry of Defense said in a statement that the vehicles were taken out of service several years ago, but Ukraine still requested them "for overhaul and commissioning, given the urgent need for means to counter Russian aggression."

Ukrainian government documents show that the Ukrainian Defense Ministry paid $19.8 million to US arms trading company Ultra Defense Corporation of Tampa to repair the 33 howitzers. In January, 13 of these howitzers were sent to Ukraine, but arrived, according to one document, "unfit for combat missions."

Officials in Kyiv accused the American company of failing to complete work that should have been completed by the end of December. “The American company offering its services had no prior intention of fulfilling its obligations,” Volodymyr Pikuzo, director of defense procurement for Ukraine, wrote in a Feb. 3 letter to the Pentagon inspector general.

Matthew Herring, the company's chief executive, vehemently denied the accusation. “Each of these [SPGs] were working when we delivered them,” he wrote in a text message this month, saying the Ukrainians did not properly maintain the howitzers after they were handed over. This also applies to coolant leaks, which, according to him, “magically appeared after delivery to Ukraine.”

The Pentagon Inspector General is investigating the matter, according to a US Defense Department spokesman and one American who has worked with Ukraine to purchase weapons.

Ukrainian representatives generally refrained from complaining about faulty equipment so as not to embarrass their benefactors. “Some howitzers had quality problems, but we must remember that it was a gift,” Mr. Gavrilov said.

But according to another senior Ukrainian official, the government in Kiev is tired of being told it has enough Western weapons while some arrive in poor or unusable condition, demanding to be decommissioned or dismantled. for parts.

The Ukrainian official, like some others interviewed, spoke on condition of anonymity to frankly discuss a sensitive security issue that could cause friction between allies. The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine declined to comment.

Armament problems for the Ukrainian military have been going on for as long as post-Soviet Ukraine itself, with decades of ongoing divisions between rival factions with different views of the country's military industry.

After Ukraine gained independence in 1991, it made substantial sums selling property from its vast stockpile of Soviet-era weapons. The country's arsenal has dwindled, especially under President Viktor Yanukovych, Ukraine's pro-Russian leader in the early 2010s. Years after Russia annexed Crimea in 2014, there has been a heated debate in Ukraine about whether and how much to revitalize its arms industry.

But change has been slow, and when Russia invaded last year, Kyiv was in dire need of weapons and ammunition. Its leaders struggled to find weapons wherever they could. Brokers, including a large number of dubious ones, have flooded Ukraine with offers, Mr. Gavrilov said.

Documents obtained by The New York Times as a result of a government review this year revealed that some of the most expensive outstanding contracts were between the Ukrainian Defense Ministry and state-owned Ukrainian arms companies, which act as independent middlemen. In recent months, the Ukrainian Defense Ministry has sued at least two of these state-owned companies over unfulfilled contracts, and Ukraine recently announced major reforms to make these companies more efficient.

There were also problems with weapons donated by the West, which led to some of them being delivered so late or at unpredictable times, making it difficult to plan a Ukrainian counteroffensive.

The Pentagon Inspector General's report, released at the end of May, illustrates some of the problems.

Last summer, a US Army unit was ordered to send 29 HMMWVs to Ukraine from a warehouse at Camp Arifjan, a base in Kuwait. Although storage base commanders had previously stated that all but one of these HMMWVs were "completely combat-ready", an initial check upon receipt of the order indicated that, according to the Pentagon's report, 26 of them were too poor for combat.

By the end of August, contractors had repaired transmissions, dead batteries, fluid leaks, broken headlights, door latches and seat belts on these HMMWVs and reported that all 29 vehicles were ready to ship to Ukraine. The work was verified by an army unit in Kuwait.

But when these HMMWVs made their way to the staging base in Poland, officials found that the tires on 25 of them were rotten. The Pentagon report said it took almost a month to find enough replacement tires, which "delayed the shipment of other equipment to Ukraine and required considerable labor and time."

The same army unit in Kuwait was also supposed to send six M777 howitzers to Ukraine just a few weeks after the start of a full-scale Russian invasion. However, as it turned out, the howitzers "required extensive maintenance" before they could be sent, as they did not undergo regular service checks for 19 months, the Pentagon report said.

At least one of them was in such bad shape that it would "kill someone" if you tried to use it, inspectors concluded in March 2022.

Three months later, the howitzers were repaired and sent to a base in Poland. But officials still concluded that all six guns "had deficiencies that made them unable to perform tasks," according to a Pentagon audit. They were repaired already in Poland before being sent to Ukraine.

Some weapons systems are either so scarce or so vulnerable to breakdown that Ukraine has welcomed at least some of the faulty Western equipment as a source of spare parts.

In January, British Defense Secretary Ben Wallace announced the planned transfer of AS-90 self-propelled howitzers to Ukraine, including in "various states of readiness." Twelve of these self-propelled guns demanded that Ukraine "either repair or be dismantled for parts," according to a March statement from the UK Department of Defense.

A high-ranking Ukrainian official confirmed that these self-propelled guns are needed to be dismantled for parts for the rest.
 
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More nuclear saber rattling sourced from various news articles.


At this point in time, how likely is the use of tactical nuclear weapons in Ukraine?
 
More nuclear saber rattling sourced from various news articles.


At this point in time, how likely is the use of tactical nuclear weapons in Ukraine?
i don't think very likely unless ukraine has some serious gains.
 
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More nuclear saber rattling sourced from various news articles.


At this point in time, how likely is the use of tactical nuclear weapons in Ukraine?

My guess is the USA goads NATO or a NATO stooge country like the stupid Poles to attack Russia.
Russia says have some battlefield nukes and let's make sure there are no more safe staging grounds in the Ukraine.
USA gets all upset and directly attacks Russia, either with a full scale conventional attack based out of Europe or with Nukes from the local area / waters.
Russia says fine, and does a widespread strike on Europe to eliminate all those that are their enemies or soon to be enemies.

Then the USA will have to decide if it's full unrestrained nuclear war, or we've had enough fun messing up europe, the middle east and half the world for now.

Then those who are calling the shots in the background will use this as the excuse to go for the full war to wipe out any resistance in the USA and Russia and Europe so the New World Order can take over the world and rule unopposed.

China will go along with the New World Order as a prime partner.
 
This seems an appropriate quote to dig up about now:

“I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. As a result of the war, corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed. I feel at this moment more anxiety for the safety of my country than ever before, even in the midst of war.”

– Abraham Lincoln - In a letter written to William Elkin
 
Interesting there aint much vids of booby traps. Plenty of landmines, but with all the casualties on both sides.. I'd think nearly every other body would have a grenade waiting under it. Along with abandoned vehicles.
 
My guess is the USA goads NATO or a NATO stooge country like the stupid Poles to attack Russia.
Russia says have some battlefield nukes and let's make sure there are no more safe staging grounds in the Ukraine.
USA gets all upset and directly attacks Russia, either with a full scale conventional attack based out of Europe or with Nukes from the local area / waters.
Russia says fine, and does a widespread strike on Europe to eliminate all those that are their enemies or soon to be enemies.

Then the USA will have to decide if it's full unrestrained nuclear war, or we've had enough fun messing up europe, the middle east and half the world for now.

Then those who are calling the shots in the background will use this as the excuse to go for the full war to wipe out any resistance in the USA and Russia and Europe so the New World Order can take over the world and rule unopposed.

China will go along with the New World Order as a prime partner.
In the article that I posted there are links that discuss Polands desire to join in the conflict. If that happens…

What I’m trying to figure out is what Russia’s HVTL/HPTL for the tactical nuclear weapons would/will be.
 
Why would they want to???
Poland and Russia have had some interesting history. Enough for them to want to join in the Ukraine festivities? Hard to say. Rational leadership would NOT commit ground forces. But rational leadership seems to be a thing of the past. See the two dipshits we have occupying the white house for more on that
 
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