Rifle Competition Events What would you change or do differently with current competitions/organizations?

[FUNCTIONAL]

If it was local to me, I would set aside a Saturday, or even an occasional weekend no problem. 5 days off work and $12-$1500 all in costs are not really fun anymore.

If that was my cost I'd have been done long ago. I've been lucky and had 5 places within 3hrs or less of me

 

[HardRockARC]

When I started I was an hour from the MPA Cool Acres matches north of Savannah. Now living in Nashville my closest centerfire match is 2.5 hours each way to Indiana. And those top out at 500 yards. K&M is like 3 hours but that’s it for matches. That’s not a PRS problem, just a, not enough ranges problem lol

 

[lash]

Well then fuck it, why have tac class, gas gun, production, juniors, LE/mil, seniors, etc. everyone shoots open and that’s it. I don’t give a fuck about egos. Never once did I say anything about wanting to win or get a trophy. Not everyone is gonna run your $8k open rifle is my point. And putting a 1st time shooter against a guy who gets paid to shoot in the same class is fucking retarded. This is my fucking point since you’re all so thick. There should be a class for Joe shooter to come out and shoot and be competitive with a $750 rifle and optic setup. That’s fucking it. Not trophy’s but people that are in the same skill and equipment level.

So that they don’t compare themselves to PRS cool guys like you shooting 25x47 handloads out of your 1.25” straight contour Kruger barrel on your $2k action with your $4k ZCO optic and $1800 MDT ACC Elite.

Fuck I don’t get why this is such a fucking controversial topic.

Right there with you. I hit a few regional and outlaw matches just to stay "fresh" but I cant enjoy the regular prs crap anymore. All the same standard stages and still $200+ for no innovation. Been done with it a few years now.

If it was local to me, I would set aside a Saturday, or even an occasional weekend no problem. 5 days off work and $12-$1500 all in costs are not really fun anymore.

What I see in common here is not enough venues within reasonable day match distance. And I get that, as I was going to say that the answer for most of this is lack of local matches that are lower cost and lower impact. That’s really where your average middle of the road guy is going to spend most of his/her time until or unless they are driven to compete (and therefore practice as such) at a higher level.

Honestly, I am fortunate to have people that drive 2-3 hours or more that get up/down to my matches. Availability of sufficient ranges is a thing.

 

[Tx_Aggie]

What I see in common here is not enough venues within reasonable day match distance. And I get that, as I was going to say that the answer for most of this is lack of local matches that are lower cost and lower impact. That’s really where your average middle of the road guy is going to spend most of his/her time until or unless they are driven to compete (and therefore practice as such) at a higher level.

Honestly, I am fortunate to have people that drive 2-3 hours or more that get up/down to my matches. Availability of sufficient ranges is a thing.

I think a lot of folks really misjudge the size of the PRS, and of the precision rifle competition world in general. There just aren't that many places that are capable of safely holding a match, or that many people participating. At least not compared to something more mainstream like action pistol or shotgun sports.

The "I want a division for average joes to compete in so I don't have to shoot against Pros" argument (ignoring the fact that most of the "Pros" are also just guys with a day job and a family) and the discouragement that so many have with not having a 1000yd+ precision rifle competition venue an hour from their house are two sides of the same coin. It's a really fucking small pond.

 

[FUNCTIONAL]

I think a lot of folks really misjudge the size of the PRS, and of the precision rifle competition world in general. There just aren't that many places that are capable of safely holding a match, or that many people participating. At least not compared to something more mainstream like action pistol or shotgun sports.

The "I want a division for average joes to compete in so I don't have to shoot against Pros" argument (ignoring the fact that most of the "Pros" are also just guys with a day job and a family) and the discouragement that so many have with not having a 1000yd+ precision rifle competition venue an hour from their house are two sides of the same coin. It's a really fucking small pond.

If they opened up the guidelines for match stages a bit more you could put a lot of stressors int a stage to make it a challenge even at 500yrds like it was before the prs. Bring back the fear of losing points because you were over confident or didn't stage plan correctly. There should be no "standard" for barricades. With the garmin now it's easy to throw a random stage to check velocity...I can guarantee people have cheated the velocity limits and in tac the bullet weight restrictions. It's not fool proof but there is nothing enforcing those rules. Either change the rules or enforce them.

 

[NiteQwill]

So that they don’t compare themselves to PRS cool guys like you shooting 25x47 handloads out of your 1.25” straight contour Kruger barrel on your $2k action with your $4k ZCO optic and $1800 MDT ACC Elite.

Fuck I don’t get why this is such a fucking controversial topic.

This sounds like a pretty poor person setup. Doesn't even tip the scales at $13k.

 

[NiteQwill]

If they opened up the guidelines for match stages a bit more you could put a lot of stressors int a stage to make it a challenge even at 500yrds like it was before the prs. Bring back the fear of losing points because you were over confident or didn't stage plan correctly. There should be no "standard" for barricades. With the garmin now it's easy to throw a random stage to check velocity...I can guarantee people have cheated the velocity limits and in tac the bullet weight restrictions. It's not fool proof but there is nothing enforcing those rules. Either change the rules or enforce them.

I'm confused, cuz I highly doubt anyone is shooting anything at 3200+ fps.

As far as tac, I agree with you

 

[FUNCTIONAL]

I'm confused, cuz I highly doubt anyone is shooting anything at 3200+ fps.

As far as tac, I agree with you

Id have thought the same but when you brake out your chrono and the person next to you intentionally gets up before you even let a round off and goes one over between his buddies is a bit suspicious. Then smelling burnt primer and later spotting for him and seeing a flatter trajectory than the other 120+ shooters added to it.

Tac I've heard admitted outright... that was my last season.

I got stories for days....high profile period ignoring safety rules and when you call him out he says get off his back he's been to war. Calling out real time corrections for a wife and yelling atyou when you don't call a shot that he thinks hit. People bringing a drill with a piece of wood with short screws ready to go to game a slanted post, "not in the rules you can't" bs gets argued with you for 20 minutes. Dudes coming up to you half the roster later saying why you only make 5 instead of 6 then arguing since I can't remember 60 shots later that you should give it to them.

Sport is way different than it used to be, just a bunch of cool dudes looking to be challenged and have a good time and give eachother shit. Ain't worth my time anymore dealing with almost any of the top guys.

 

[NiteQwill]

Slanted piece of wood with screws... Genius! I should have used that today at the match

I feel you... Hey, it is generally the same 150-250 in the Finale. So, yea... Growth has to be achieved somewhere.

 

[stanley_white]

None of us can want things for PRS more than PRS wants for itself.

-Stan

 

[Shoots 700's]

I see the sport shrinking instead of growing. I shoot it for fun and can hold my own, however don’t have the time or need to practice every weekend and take time away from other hobbies.

And I don’t see anyone making a living shooting PRS.